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Propper – A True Urban Grey

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Working with the progress made by MilSpec Monkey, Propper has taken their own steps into the discovery of a True Urban Grey. You can check out their blog post at the link below:

www.propper.com/blog/urbangrey

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20 Responses to “Propper – A True Urban Grey”

  1. bluenoser says:

    Well since MSM already found the “Real” Urban Grey, it’s great to have Propper set out to find the “True” Urban Grey.

    https://soldiersystems.net/?s=msm+urban+grey

  2. literate brazilian says:

    And yet, Propper acknowledged MSM’s work in the first few lines.

  3. Rearmount says:

    I think LBT’s MAS Grey is one of the most versatile shades out there, and isn’t as blue as “Wolf” grey. Too bad it’s not more widely used.

  4. james says:

    this whole subject fall into the grey area… better grey? really? I believe the Navy tried this in WWII… with breaking up the profile of the ships…

  5. JS says:

    +1 for the Mas Grey

  6. Ex11A says:

    The best MS Monkey and/or others are going to do is Steingrau Oliv (stone-grey olive used by the Bundeswehr and Austrian Army) or the brown-grey Tan 499 in OCP. Grey with any blue in it is not going to work as camouflage (see UCP).

    • Hoff says:

      See ABU

    • Asinine Name says:

      I’d only seen that colour on BW garments and often wondered if it had a name. Thx for the explanation.

    • Dave says:

      Thanks for that. I’ve just done a bit of looking and found the RAL is 7013.

      Was the same shade used for tanks and clothing?

      • Ex11A says:

        Dave, I remember Bundeswehr vehicles in the 90’s as being grey-green. Whether they were RAL 7013 just as the uniforms, I can’t say, but they were close.

  7. Ex11A says:

    The FBI HRT (which may have done some urban ops) have been photographed in Crye ranger green gear. Ranger green is almost the same or is the same as Steingrau Olive (RAL 7013) I mentioned above.

  8. Dave says:

    I am not sure about the “urban” bit. I believe it was in “The Jungle Is Neutral” by Spencer Chapman I was reading that elephants can be an absolute pig to spot. Something the size of an elephant! In the ‘wrong’ colour!

  9. Somaro says:

    Ähm… “Its not about trends. Its about what works best.”

    http://ufpro.si/uf_pro_gear_in_brown_grey_ral_7013/

    Obviously the european experts are already there for years, where Propper and MSM would like to be in the future.

    • Jon Meyer says:

      Looks very similar in color to RG but with a very minimal hint of Coyote.

      People keep looking for the ultimate urban color when it exists; RG.

      It also has the advantage of blending fairly well into some wooded and a wide range of mountainous areas.