WL Gore & Assoc

Letting Medics Use Hands-Free Lights?


Not for EFMB!  I’m not even sure they still make those old angle head D-cell lights.

36 Responses to “Letting Medics Use Hands-Free Lights?”

  1. Jambo says:

    They do indeed still make moonbeams. They are pretty sturdy and double as a blunt weapon.

  2. P.J. says:

    So is there any rationale at all given for this?

  3. Badjujuu says:

    Just went thru reclass @ Camp Shelby. We used headlamps entire time.

  4. Bill says:

    Funny. Surgeons and other docs wear “headlamps” all the time, but I guess not on land nav.

  5. Eddie says:

    They still make you buy those D-Cells for Basic Training as of 2016. Gotta have a beam for fire guard.

  6. Robert Altrich says:

    EFMB is a fucking joke

  7. ThatBlueFalcon says:

    I’m pretty sure the military requires the D-cell flashlight just to keep business for LCI. They have a niche, but it’s an increasingly shrinking one.

  8. tm says:

    I guess they haven’t heard about those crazy new headlamps capable of taking different color filters or just switching colors thanks to this revolutionary new LED technology?

    I’m guessing they don’t allow mounting of optics on flintlocks carried on the land nav course either.

  9. JKifer says:

    wow, what a bunch of BS… anything to make a joe out in the fields life harder.. fucking remf’s

  10. Mash68 says:

    All part of the game\ joke that is EFMB

  11. Erin says:

    Not at all surprised. Got bitched at by an ALC instructor for bringing a nice led flashlight with swivel head that forms an angle head because it wasn’t the old plastic POS. I opened the packing list that simply read “angle head flashlight.” I asked what part of this flashlight doesn’t fit that description?

  12. historia says:

    I think its the make training harder than real life idea? Of course that conflicts with train like you fight. Just remember you cant always fight like you train.

  13. ManBeerOwl says:

    Please be reasonable and understand that if it wasn’t for absurd packing lists the companies that make these inadequate flashlights would have to finally get competitive and make a product people might actually want to buy for purposes other than a Vietnam re-enactment.

    • Guy says:

      “This is keeping American manufacturing and jobs alive in the 21st century so that I can keep the pork, ermm, *investment*, coming into our state!”
      -Some Senatory probably

  14. Trevor Medina says:

    Throw an LED conversion “bulb” in one and it isn’t half bad. Besides, when do packing lists for schools ever reflect field conditions for line units?

  15. Flight-ER-Doc says:

    Bullshit, of course.

    What happens if a smarter than average medic takes one of those Mini-Mags or Streamlights and sticks it on his helmet?

  16. Eric b says:

    Because the best medicine is done one-handed

  17. Brian says:

    Can you use a “helmet light”? Since a “helmet light” is mounted to/ directly to a helmet and infers that it is an illumination device for a helmet….as opposed to a “head lamp/light” which infers that it is worn on your head directly. Just asking the question,…becouse there are no stupid questions, right?

  18. straps says:

    I’d roll in there with a 90° light with 5x chemlights stuffed in the barrel and a Petzl STRIX (last flashlight I’ll ever buy) clipped to the fly of my pants.

    Yup, I’m That Guy.

    My vote for nefarious conspiracy is that this is a packing list holdout from before the days that Clothing Sales was selling us new uniforms every couple years…

  19. AbnMedOps says:

    Ah, the MX-991/U. Just keep jiggling or give it a smack when it keeps blinking out.

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  21. SGT Rock says:

    While on PT runs during Basic Trainng/AIT my drill sergeants liked to grab them from Privates and smash them on the ground b/c they couldn’t keep in step. Lol

  22. Michael says:

    Man EFMB, needs some updates with current use of gear that’s being utilized out there, a medic for 20 years with CMB, and I feel that this prestigious badge event is always 5 years or even more – late than current TTPS that are being utilized in the current medical community in garrison and combat environments.