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Marine Corps Problems

New guns, new magazines, even new helmets. But they can’t get their magazines in their pouches. Thankfully, there’s a Gunner to show the way.

32 Responses to “Marine Corps Problems”

  1. PTMcCain says:

    Good Lord…seriously?

  2. Geoff says:

    @GarandThumb has got to be licking his chops over this one.

  3. I know HK should just make some new mag Pouches ! Then the circle would be complete :)

    If only Water + Ammo can could fix everything going on there that would be awesome….

  4. SVGC says:

    Wow. Next on Red Green, I mean Gunner’s Underground, how to convert your M9 Serpa holster to fit using duct tape and 2 beverage base bags. If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

  5. Donde says:

    Next tip… how to purchase a 2000 Chevy Camaro at the local used car lot for a criminally low APR rate of 29%

  6. SN says:

    If only someone could make a loop thingy that went on the bottom of a magazine making it easier to pull out.

    • Erik says:

      You mean if they had some way to PUL their MAG?

      Seriously though, I like seeing a near-zero cost solution to a problem. Also, that’s probably just specific to an issued piece of gear they already have hundreds and thousands of. Would it be nice to refit everyone with the latest and greatest in mag pouches? Sure. But work with what you have for now.

  7. Chuck says:

    I’ll take the ass chewing…

    Yes, Marines should have pouches that fit pmags, but I’m glad that since they don’t, someone is still teaching fieldcraft. Good looking out.

  8. Kirk says:

    Yeah, but what happens when the pouches get wet again, and dry out without the spacers in place…?

    Nylon ain’t supposed to shrink, but it does do something similar–I’ve got a couple of pouches that are nice and loose when wet that are tight as hell once they dry again, and I’ve never gotten a permanent lasting “stretch” into them with this technique. They usually tighten up again the next time they’re wet and dry again…

  9. Neil says:

    Saw this and promptly smacked my head on the table. What is this, 2007, and dudes haven’t yet learned to stop double stacking mags in pouches??

    It’s like this terrible cycle that starts with young Marines hitting up the PX for every pouch available, and anything they can attach to some MOLLE. Combat loadouts of 15 mags “just in case”… by month 4 of deployment, it’s like walking behind a Camp Lejeune yard sale, and they’ve lost most of the crap.

    I will say the Gunner in the video is one of the good ones, and I do wish the CWO4s would speak up more…

    • Neil says:

      The more I think about it, the more I’m getting memories of Marines trying to go prone under fire and there’s so much crap on their front (like 6-8 mags) on their direct front that their behinds are stuck in the air like a messed up Yoga class, and they can’t bend their necks far enough to get their messed up helmets high enough to see through their messed up optics with messsd up and criminally short eye relief.

      #Triggered

      • Jordan says:

        I have never met anyone that has seen combat who said he had too much ammo. Not a single person.

        Guess its the new thing in 2018 with all the snowflakes, fatties, semi-retards and women in the military that complain that ammo is heavy and magazines are not apple products.

        “You know and I’m like “Why do I have to carry like all these magazines, right?” I mean I could just take like 4 magazines and one in the rifle and thats like what? A million rounds? I mean really? Does anyone need like 5 or 4 magazines to kill someone? I know I don’t.”

        Well, guess the times are chaging.

        • Neil says:

          I have. Seen Marines, soldiers and sailors go out with 12-18 magazines plus other equipment.

          It’s not just weight, but cube space and distribution of equipment that makes excessive combat loadouts non-viable. Additional pounds exacerbates the massive gain in bulk.

          Outdated metrics of suppression are what demand super high loadouts. It’s a symptom of wrongful conflation of threat detection vs. prosecution.

          Plus, excessive loadouts are symbolic of poor leadership and control of fires.

          • AbnMedOps says:

            “Wrongful conflation”. You hit the nail on the head of the center of mass of the center of gravity of our military problems.

        • GER Fritz says:

          Oh Boy, i had a couple of Gunfights. And my longest took me 6 Hours and CQB Situations. I never need more than 5-6 Mags. But when you shoot for not getting nervous than you do something wrong!! A other question is- how often did you see the Enemy when you getting Fire?? Are you shoot without seeing the Enemy?? Maybe a HMG yes , but as a Rifleman No!!

  10. Mike says:

    I’m glad he remembered the water… but he didn’t take advil or change his socks. 1/10 would not operate with.

  11. Nunya250 says:

    Just cut the elastic on one side of the pouch. That’s what we used to do and it works fine.

  12. Iceman says:

    the pouches aren’t too small. The pmags are too big. Place all your issued pmags in an oven set to 450 for 20 mins.

  13. CAP says:

    Its nice to see a simple fix to a problem. If this were the army, they would have taken a few years and spent millions of dollars to design a copy of an already commercially available pouch that fits pmags.

    • Will Rodriguez says:

      Must be the new Army. We used to do stuff like this all the time.

  14. SVGC says:

    Man, if only there was some sort of way to check if mags work in existing pouches before hand. Or maybe if there was some way the Marines could’ve stipulated that mags had to work with existing pouches…. In seriousness I’m stoked magpul won this, but this is embarrassing to watch. Truly a masterpiece only my beloved Corps. could make. I rate this video 4 out of 5 Wag Bags.

    • Adrian says:

      They do fit, it’s just not an ideal fit. Imagine if they made a requirement that the magazines had to fit the pouch, and then Magpul was out of the running. Then some substandard magazine won out by virtue of ideally fitting in an existing pouch.

      Also not sure why it is embarrassing. The man is teaching field craft and an immediate solution to a problem.

      • SVGC says:

        Requiring a mag work to with existing pouches wouldn’t hamper magpul. The EMAG body works just fine in the pouches. And the man teaching fieldcraft isn’t what’s embarrassing. What’s embarrassing is that this problem arose in the first place. When the mag was adopted, a solution to hold it should’ve been part of the program or already in place. It’s a no brainer that the new mag needs to work well. Unfortunately not every Marine is going to fix this problem or see this video. They need to have a readily available solution that works out of the box to account for the lowest common denominator. Also as someone above mentioned, this isn’t a guaranteed permanent solution. The pouches could get wet and then shrink again and you’re back to square one. And if you’re familiar with the USMC’s speedmag pouch, it’s also a huge pain in the ass with a pmag, it was actually pretty shitty with a regular aluminum mag. As I said, PMAGs rock, I’m glad they got them, just this little oversight is lame.

  15. Chris says:

    ? if anyone is interested, amazingly we have developed a new pouch that actually fits your mags. Innovate or die

  16. Wraith11B says:

    Well, hell, Gunner, why not just talk about ruining the gear so CIF won’t take it back?