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A Man Walks Into An ATF Office And Asks To Be Arrested

Dimitri Karras is a man driven. The first time I spoke with him, I couldn’t help but feel his passion for the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Over time, this focused on the private finishing of so-called 80% lower AR-style receivers into firearms. In that first conversation he told me the story of the Battle of Athens and that’s some pretty heavy stuff. Karras is a very intelligent and creative man. He’s also a man who isn’t satisfied with the status quo. This makes him very vocal about his beliefs so this latest news wasn’t so much a surprise, as an update.

Over the past few years this former Marine and businessman has had a couple of scrapes with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Forearms and Explosives. The other day he sent me this letter about his most recent efforts that he feels will force the ATF to acknowledge that their position on 80% receivers is incorrect.

Yes, he was wearing a cape when he did this. I’d say that Karras sees himself as a crusader for 2A rights and he’s not afraid to use protest or the courts as a means to attain his goals.

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TO: Whom It May Concern
FROM: Dimitrios Karras
SUBJ: Proof that 99% Lowers Are Legal. Part 1
DATE: February 9, 2015

Far too long have we permitted our government overlords to run amuck. They have systematically created a monster that tramples the humanity of the American People. The ATF believes that they have the power to create law. They are wrong. Their self-authorized law-making is unconstitutional, morally reprehensible and in direct conflict with the ideology of a free people.

When making decisions, a good man does not ponder what personal harm may come upon himself. He ponders only what action is just and right. I have acted upon my beliefs.

I have challenged the ATF to unjustly arrest me based on their unenforceable “opinion” of the law. I have not broken the law. I have put their “opinion” to the test.

I am no longer employed by Ares Armor, I have left the business in good hands. What I did, I did as an individual and not as an entity.

To slay a dragon, you must track him. Study his behavior. Learn his weaknesses. The battle takes place on your terms, but in his lair. I have prepared my armor, sharpened my spear; I traveled into the belly of his mountain to catch him asleep.

I have acted upon my conscience as a free man. They have no power over me. They can lock me up for a hundred years and I will still have won. To challenge the unjustness of tyranny is a victory unto itself. “A lifetime serving one machine is ten times worse than prison.” -The Clash

Remember John Brown, a true American Hero. He gave his life in an attempt to free others. He was executed under the laws of the United States.
Remember the Battle of Athens.
Remember Waco, Remember Ruby Ridge. Remember it all.

It is our responsibility as free men to undergo the rigors associated with the defense of liberty. It is our responsibility to pass on to our children free choice, free will. It is our responsibility.

Do more than just mourn your dead, America. Honor them. Protect their legacy. Too many have bled their last drop for us to allow their sacrifice to be for nothing. Too many have paid for the freedoms that we now give away in exchange for comfort.
Too many…

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Today, I walked into an ATF office in Indiana with a 99% Lower Receiver™, an Air-gun Upper Receiver and a gigantic neon sign offering said items for sale. After a rather lengthy amount of harassment, which included a full pat down, a short “ball massage” and an inspection of the 99% lower™, the Agents refused to charge me with any Federal Crimes.

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The Agent stated that I was not breaking any Federal Laws by offering these items for sale. The local police were called and gave me a warning that I may not solicit any items for sale in Indiana without a local business license.
For those of you who are interested… Here is the a quote from the case I cited when discussing with the Agents the legality of the items I had offered for sale.

“PIETRO BERETTA U.S. 9mm M9 Chrome Pistol Lighter, Top Popular Men’s Gift was once a real Beretta (it wasn’t), but all its innards have been removed and if you pull the trigger all that happens is that the muzzle emits a tiny flame. Would a felon who possessed such a lighter be a felon in possession of a firearm? Maybe he would be if what the statute asked is whether the alleged weapon “was designed ? to expel,” but it doesn’t; it says “is designed.” That implies the possibility of redesign. In our example the gun lighter was originally designed to be a gun but later it was redesigned to be a cigarette lighter. We doubt that the statutory definition would fit that case, see United States v. Rivera, supra, 415 F.3d at 287; United States v. Reed, 114 F.3d 1053, 1058–59 (10th Cir.1997) (dissenting opinion); United States v. Wada, 323 F.Supp.2d 1079 (D.Or.2004), although a complication is that the statutory definition of “firearm” includes—remember—“the frame or receiver of any such weapon.” The frame or receiver (these are synonyms) is the housing of the gun, which contains the magazine and the trigger assembly—the operating parts. The gun lighter might be the frame of a real gun, although we’re inclined to think that it would not be the frame of a “weapon” that was “designed” to shoot and so would fall outside the statutory definition of a frame as a firearm.” (Emphasis added)

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1627269.html

The first step to prove that 99% Receivers™ are not “firearms” under the Law has been completed with flying colors!
More to come…

Sincerely,

Dimitrios Karras, A free man.

“But I don’t want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.”-Aldous Huxley

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50 Responses to “A Man Walks Into An ATF Office And Asks To Be Arrested”

  1. Terry B. says:

    I like the way he thinks.

    And I like the way he is going about making his voice heard.

    The cape I’m not so sure about.

    TLB

  2. matt says:

    Sorry, but maybe I missed something. Even if the 99% lower was considered to be a firearm he still did nothing illegal as a private citizen. What is this supposed to show? I got all jacked up on the liberty pep-talk at the beginning and distracted by the case law toward the end. Did I miss where he did something that really stuck it to the ATF???

    • JDT says:

      Agreed… I don’t really see how this “action” does anything to further his cause. I’m not saying I disagree with his argument(s), but showing up in a cape with a hand-drawn sign does not lend much credence to his position. The letter has a few references that touch on sovereign citizen ideology – several mentions of being a “free man” and remembering Waco & Ruby Ridge – that makes me believe his negative interaction with the BATFE has radicalized him. Hopefully whatever comes next in his scheme remains a peaceful protest that doesn’t put anyone at risk.

      • Terry B. says:

        +1

        • HT says:

          Yeah, he lost me at Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge. If anyone doubts the patriotism of the HRT dudes that had to respond to those two unfortunate situations, they need to re-educate themselves. What the tin foil hat wearing lunatic fringe forgets to remember was that the FBI and HRT only got involved after Federal LEOs (USMS and ATF) were killed at both locations. They didn’t show up to take guns away from decent, law abiding citizens.

          Anyone who knows the color of the boathouse at Quantico knows that nearly everyone at the tip of the FED LE spear are fervent supporters of the Constitution and especially the 2nd Amendment. Anyone who chooses to stand with people like David Koresh and Randy Weaver are either uninformed or lacking in values.

          • balais says:

            Patriotism?

            These same type of fucktards are fervently executing the provisions of the patriot act and war on drugs, which are both unconstitutional.

            Not to mention digital surveillance and secretive DEA special operations teams that conduct their operations with impunity. Are they patriots?

            Randy weaver did nothing wrong. He was effed by overzealous agents hellbent on getting what they want.

            David Koresh was a nut, but still, nuts are protected by due process.

            You completely miss the point. Anybody who stands by, like a fucking mook, allowing the egregious violations of civil liberties to occur, and thoughtlessly enforces them, are not “patriotic” by any stretch of the imagination.

            “patriotism is a virtue of the vicious”

            PS where are the FBI to prevent the ATF and DEA’s heavy handed tactics? like in Texas where they raided a head shop? Buttstroking a woman in the neck with a M16?

            Scumbags, the lot of them.

            • HT says:

              I know where I stand and I know who misses the point. The sad fact is the guys who read this blog and actually get the cool gear and training this blog is geared towards believe in this country and our Constitution every bit as much as, if not more than you do. The basement dwelling, neck bearded fatties sure do talk a good game but do very little when it comes to putting their asses on the line.

              • Joe says:

                I would imagine that USMC Sgt. Karras’ multiple deployments as an Infantryman do little to show his willingness to put his ass on the line in your book HT. And by the look of it Dimitri isnt a fattie living in a basement, altgough he does have a beard so I guess your comment does contain a shred of truth.

              • balais says:

                Yeah keep telling yourself that, HT.

                Most of them are “just following orders”, and, when the rubber meets the road, they know which side they would be on.

                You can spin it any way you want. Waco and Ruby Ridge were BULLSHIT. It doesn’t matter that Weaver was a white separatist and that Koresh was nuckin futs. The government set a precedent that they can lie, cheat, steal and blow things out of proportion so that they can make a name for themselves (which resulted in people dying).

                And not a single soul was held accountable for those actions, and you are sitting there telling me, “but they’re patriotic I tell ya!”

                Bullshit.

                “The basement dwelling, neck bearded fatties sure do talk a good game but do very little when it comes to putting their asses on the line.”

                WTF is that? some generalization you pulled out of your forth point of contact?

                That all critics of the government are “neckbeards” or any other such labels?

                And putting your life on the line to enforce unconstitutional laws isn’t something to hold in high regard. the ATF, like the DEA and DHS for example, can go piss up a rope. Fuck em.

            • LP says:

              +10000000

          • Jack says:

            + 1,000.

          • John Paschke says:

            What the bootlicking lunatic fringe forgets to remember is that a “sniper” shot an unarmed mother holding an infant. As to your lame Ronin reference, how in hell would you know that federal LE are fervent supporters of the Constitution let alone the 2A? I believe they are first and foremost fervent supports of the paycheck and pensions. Anyone who chooses to stand with jack-booted thugs are either uninformed or lacking in values

          • SubandSand says:

            Do some research on Ruby Ridge. Just about every LE Agency came out of that looking like scumbags and an innocent woman hold a child was shot in the fucking head for no reason.

    • Dimitri says:

      I offered to sell hundreds of them for profit… I straight made this offer to the ATF agent while he was questioning me. 🙂

      • Jason says:

        I wish I would have known where in Indiana. You should have made it more public notice so others could witness the event in support. Why did you leave AA to do this? Is it to prevent a backlash?

  3. matt says:

    Also, why do this in Indiana? Isn’t he living in Oceanside, CA? Or was Oceanside to much of a non-permissive environment for this — whatever this was…

    • JDT says:

      If I’m following his argument properly, I believe Karras chose Indiana because it falls under the 7th Circuit case law that he cites.

  4. Greg says:

    I sense this is merely logical step #1 in a multi-step plan he has in his mind to prove the case. I look forward to his future plans 🙂

  5. Eric says:

    I agree with challenging the ATF and the government on their stances on firearms.

    I personally would wear a suit. I fear peoples outlandish attidutes are preventing a legitimate discussion on firearms to the government. If someone I knew tried to discuss serious business in a cape – I would not take them seriously, at first anyway.

    The argument helps gun rights. The presentation hurt gun rights – in my opinion.

    • Chris says:

      100% agree. The open carrying of rifles into Chipotle is the tip of the stupid spear. Presentation is everything. You may have a great product (or argument) but unles you are taken seriously from the start it is difficult to catch back up.

      • DP says:

        I’m not so sure. With the ATFs over-reaching, illegal law making [read: sig brace redesign bullshit and the planned banning of m855] it seems as tho it may take more then a few politely worded letters requesting the ATF to cease and desist their dooshbaggery.

        Also, IIRC, 80% lowers can be sold as they are not firearms, however selling a 99% lower would be forbidden as it is above the 80% mark, and these guns are only designated for home use. Is this correct?

    • John Smith says:

      Unfortunately…Americans don’t recognize anything that isn’t presented in an “over the top” manner in our wazoo media soaked culture. I’m sure he is doing his level best to attract as much attention as he can- bravely I may add.

  6. Adam says:

    It’s not just individuals, states are getting damn tired of Big Brother encroaching on civil liberties. Check out news from my home state:

    http://www.guns.com/2015/02/11/bills-nullifying-federal-gun-bans-get-approval-in-montana-arizona/

  7. Airborne_fister says:

    As an Indiana man here in indy. It’s comi com weekend. Hence the cape. I’m down with what he did here.

  8. Common Sense says:

    I agree with his opinion, and applaud his attempt to take a stand. However doing so in a cape, while quoting “The Clash”, makes this seem like a comedy sketch.

    If this was supposed to be comedy- it’s just too close to reality to be funny. If this is not supposed to be comedy, then wear a suit and don’t hand draw signs.

    (The Clash are great, too bad Joe Strummer isn’t around anymore.)

  9. Comprehenshion says:

    Perhaps the general public would prefer he wear a doctor’s coat…after all, is that not what is commonly worn when dealing with fucktards who need bite guards. Did I just insinuate ATF to window licking crayon eaters? Yes, yes I just did. And to the bright LED commenting about patriotism observed in said piles of shit, regardless of what boathouse they have seen, I have a bridge to sell you. Connects Richmond to Oakland right in the bay of San Francisco.

  10. Cal says:

    I’m 100% for the movements and statements this man takes.

    But the way he approaches and handles situations is worse off than that of a 12 year old problem child. Yes I know I know, poke the bear. But there are much more professional ways to poke the bear than acting like a 12 year old fool running a muck around the streets.

    The actions, as always I can support. The execution. I can not. This man needs to learn to be more professional and grow up and act like a man. Not like a spoiled little bratty child who plays with guns.

  11. MACK says:

    Mans got balls! Proven it time and time again, so reflect and ask yourself if you would be capable of the same. If not support the man from behind your computer. Otherwise get your ass in gear!

  12. Dellis says:

    Would not the greater questions be, is the ATF, IRS and many countless other alphabetical organizations “Constitutional”?

    Is not the Federal branch given only this?:

    1) Defense, war prosecution, peace, foreign relations, foreign commerce, and interstate commerce;

    2) The protection of citizens’ constitutional rights (e.g the right to vote) and ensuring that slavery remains illegal;

    3) Establishing federal courts inferior to the SCOTUS;

    4) Copyright protection;

    5) Coining money;

    6) Establishing post offices and post roads;

    7) Establishing a national set of universal weights and measures;

    8 ) Taxation needed to raise revenue to perform these essential functions.

    I am no scholar on law or constitution but it seems as if the Federal government has become a multi-head dragon reaching far beyond its intended role, yes?

    “For the people, by the people”…..what a crock! I would say a lot more but I don’t want a visit by the Federal Gestapo.

    • Terry B. says:

      Dellis,

      There is no “Federal Gestapo”.

      If you think there is then you don’t really know what the Gestapo was.

      The US government makes lots of mistakes – as does anything built and run by imperfect humans.

      And it should be constantly monitored and checked by vigilant citizens. That is our individual Constitutional job.

      But being perpetually paranoid or embracing fear mongering and nonsensical conspiracy theories is unbecoming of an informed citizen of our Republic.

      I’m sure you aren’t that kind of American.

      TLB

      • Dellis says:

        I am a small business owner. Do you know how damn difficult it is to try and grow a business with all the regulations and taxes I have to obide by and pay? Forgive me I have jumped the gun as perhaps you also are a business owner and understand that. If so then you’ll understand that I do all I can to obide by them and some illegal alien comes to Texas and gets the welcome mat out. I pay for his phone, his medical and housing. They have babies here but do not get married, why? Cause they get more money from me and the rest of the taxpayers.

        A good friend of mine from South Africa is a UPS mechanic. He is trying to become a citizen the legal way. Nothing but road blocks for him, almost deported twice and is paying a lot of money. He was told by an “official” it would of been easier had he come thru the damn border or Texas from Mexico!! If we secure the border then that bitch Nancy Pelosi says….”They are Americans just like us, I wish I could take them all home” Well as far as I know that ignorant asshat has yet to take any of them home.

        By “Gestapo” I mean a branch of government that has its hands into areas it was never meant to be. I believe it polices areas where it should not and flakes out on the stuff it should watch.

        Be prepared for a slew of illegal aliens voting just in time for 2016. You and I get to pay them back taxes also most likely. Hey if any illegal alien is caught…oh wait, it’s not PC to call them “illegals”, don’t deport them just send them on their way with a warning. Even if they commit a felon. In California they get a driver license even if they stole someones identity.

        You and I do that and we go to jail.

        So in my eyes the Feds are asshats. Rant over.

        • Terry B. says:

          Dellis,

          Thanks for your civil response.

          I am on board with your distrust of the government and the real issues you have so ably articulated.

          I think we are in fact more in agreement than disagreement.

          Now I have to go respond to some other people.

          Have a good day.

          TLB

      • JW says:

        Terry B. you are either woefully ill informed or deliberately spreading lies. While we have no agency called the gestapo we do have an extremely active and robust secret federal police which has conducted operations for decades.

        I guess the FBI didn’t send Martin Luther King Jr. those letters threatening to expose his affairs or encourage him to commit suicide? Those history books about the FBI’s illegal as all Hell COINTELPRO operation were all conspiracy fiction passed off as the real thing.

        Oh, I suppose you haven’t heard of good old J. Edgar Hoover’s “Personal & Confidential Files” either. That’s what he called them in a dissembling stroke of bureaucratic genius. When he was under oath testifying before Congress and asked about his “secret dossiers or secret files full of blackmail material he’d honestly say that the FBI doesn’t keep any such files. Hoover’s files existence, unlike their exact nomenclature, was no secret to anyone. They have been widely reported on in the news media and many authoritative books.

        All that ruckus about PATCON in the 1990s was made up too. Why I bet that Jesse Trentadue fellow beat himself to death in that federal prison cell. There was no conspiracy to destroy any of that evidence or threaten witnesses at all. Watch the two video interviews with the medical examiner. You know. The one before the FBI took him for a little drive through the country and the one after. No Gestapo……Riiiiiight. They scared the living hell out of the guy and it’s plain for all to see it.

        Moving on up towards present day let’s talk about the Tea party. Go on Youtube and watch to Cathrine Englebrecht and Becky Gerritson’s sworn testimony before Congress. Anyone who thinks that it’s totally coincidental to have the BATFE, FBI, OSHA, EPA, and the IRS show up at your door out of the blue just to take a looksie at your life is something that happens by coincidence, EVER, is a drooling idiot. That’s not a conspiracy sport. That happened. There’s no disputing it. We’d like to know more but the emails and all that stuff just went poof when the investigation started up. Totally coincidental I’m sure.

        Let’s move along to the Fast & Furious scandal shall we. Everyone LOOOOVEs an out of control bunch of retards running around with guns and federal badges and this story has it all. Yep the tards at the BATFE cooked up this odd scheme to provide guns to the Mexican drug cartels supposedly so they could track the guns movements into Mexico, where they have no jurisdiction and without notifying the state department or the Mexican government.

        No one has yet been able or willing to explain what flavor of black magic spell or Palantir crystal ball the BATFE has that would allow them to magically track these weapons as they were used to slaughter HUNDREDS of Mexican citizens and at least two of their fellow FED LEOS. they have no personnel stationed in Mexico to carry out undercover operations ans they have no jurisdiction or agreement with the Mexican government to allow them in to do any such op. Allegedly they were just going to rely on “Recovered Gun” reports from Mexican crime scenes. As in, after a bunch of folks were already dead. Does that disturb you Terry B? What kind of sick person(s) would come up with such a stupid depraved plan as that?

        Not one federal employee has been held accountable in any way for this incredible criminal conspiracy. That’s right sport, conspiracy. Unless you are going to sit there and tell us that it was one guy at ATF that cooked the whole thing up and did it. I’m sure that the President and Attorney General’s widely televised and recorded press conferences where they call for stricter US gun control because of the slaughter of Mexican’s south of the border by US Government supplied guns was an unfortunate faux pas. Why Holder was so embarrassed by it he lied to Congress and is still refusing to release the records they have subpenaed repeatedly.

        Then we have what the government did to Jay Dobson, one of the very few ATF agents with the balls to stand up and blow the whistle on the whole crime scene. It would be easier to list what they did not try to do to him than what the DID do or try to do to him. Should you or anyone else care to look into it his case is in federal court right now. Let’s just sum that proceeding up as things are not looking flattering or hopeful for the government.

        Let’s not leave the DEA and their super duper secret “Special Operations Division” out of the mix. Do you know what Parallel Construction means in legal circles Terry? It’s a federal felony and a gross violation of a sworn law enforcement officer or agent’s oath and a civil rights violation. But here we have a secret group within the DEA caught illegally spying on people and then passing that “fruit of the poison tree” along to local LE along with strict training and instructions to disavow the true source of the information AND make up a plausible cover story to tell the justice system. So let’s see Terry. That’s at least one person at the DEA and one person at some local law enforcement agency colluding to commit several crimes. Now go get someone to help you look up what that is in the dictionary. Tell them to look up a conspiracy. Ain’t no theory to it sport.

        I could go on with much much much more Terry. We haven’t talked about National Security Letters and how the FBI’s IG found they are being systematically abused. We haven’t talked about the NSA and other federal agencies abuse of illegal wiretapping and other personal information gathering to monitor and track their ex girl friends, spouses, etc… Heck I haven’t even brought up Snowden and the mountain range of crap he has divulged about what Uncle Sugar and his millions of agents and corporate contractors are illegally doing as we speak.

        So now you can stop telling other Americans they should or should not think about their government or it’s minions in a certain way Terry. You either have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That, or you are one of those “Influence Agent” troll accounts run by some idiot agency or contractor trying to convince Americans that it’s totally cool to live in an Orwellian state. But go ahead. Lie again and call it nonsensical. Everything I have stated is true and easily googled or researched in a decent library.

        To quote the former CEO of Intel, Andy Groves,”It’s not paranoia if they are out to get you.” If you are the nail that sticks up against the powers-that-be they can and they will most definitely be out to get you. Bank on it.

      • balais says:

        You think massive internal surveillance and secretive units (in the case of the DEA) are not Gestapo-like?

        Wake the fuck up terry. Smell the ashes.

        • Terry B. says:

          JW / balais,

          So everyone is an “Influence Agent” a “troll” or a “sycophant” if they don’t agree with your views?

          No dissenting opinions allowed? How very totalitarian.

          So much for honest and civil debate in a free society.

          And name calling doesn’t somehow validate your argument.

          Posting the angriest rants doesn’t mean you are the most informed individuals commenting on this subject.

          Still, continuing this exchange would seem to be of little value.

          So, for what it is worth, I’ll just leave you with this:

          “Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime,”
          – Adlai Stevenson

          Have a nice day.

          TLB

          • balais says:

            “So everyone is an “Influence Agent” a “troll” or a “sycophant” if they don’t agree with your views?”

            Get over yourself. This isn’t about offending your little sensibilities.

            You know the adage (and a RATHER FUCKING FITTING ONE ILL ADD): If ze shoe fits…

            “And name calling doesn’t somehow validate your argument.”

            Did your sensibilities get offended? get over it.

            “Posting the angriest rants doesn’t mean you are the most informed individuals commenting on this subject.”

            I have probably unintentionally forgot more about the subject of government abuse, with many examples already posted by JW above, than you will ever hope to know in your lifetime, on my worst fucking day, with a hangover and the flu.

            “Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime,”
            – Adlai Stevenson

            Ill leave you with this one, because it is fitting,

            “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” -Thomas Jefferson

            • Terry B. says:

              balais,

              “I have probably unintentionally forgot more about the subject of government abuse, with many examples already posted by JW above, than you will ever hope to know in your lifetime, on my worst fucking day, with a hangover and the flu.”

              You might want to consider taking your own advice and “get over yourself”.

              And no you didn’t offend my sensibilities. I just prefer to engage in discussion with people who don’t feel the need to insult people who disagree with them in every other sentence.

              If I can respect you enough not to call names I simply ask the same in return.

              TLB

              • balais says:

                So telling somebody to “wake the fuck up” is insulting?

                Lot of thin skinned, POGs here.

                • balais says:

                  Ill also add: No I wont “get over myself”.

                  Im getting sick and fucking tired of losing more civil liberties or experiencing more crimping every year. In the name of the “greater good” of course.

                  The M855 ammo debacle is just a tiny sliver of a much larger problem, but its ridiculous nonetheless because it proves that the powers to be dont need much of a reason for infringing to begin with. If that doesn’t anger you or strike you as a bit concerning, then I cant help you.

                  • Terry B. says:

                    balais,

                    No matter how passionate you are about the subject or how contentious the issue, having a civil conversation with someone is certainly not going to contribute to any erosion of your civil liberties.

                    And if you are going to insult someone you don’t know then I suggest that you at least be man enough to own it. “Thin skinned POG” or “sycophants” are sure as fuck insults…and you sure as fuck meant them to be.

                    And the saddest part of this is that I agree with you on 855 ammo and I am 100% on board with what Karras is doing. Which was the point of the original posts.

                    TLB

                    • balais says:

                      LOL “Sycophants” came from your mouth, not mine.

                    • Terry B says:

                      balais,

                      Nope, you said it below earlier.

                      “You few sycophants keep defending them. I’m sure they’ll save the fuzzy handcuffs for you.”

                      TLB

  13. Patrick says:

    Mr. Karras is not just a warrior for the second amendment, but a battle hardened General. I support Ares Armor as much as I can with my needed purchases. Keep up the offensive fight. God Bless you and your family, and may history remember your efforts.

  14. Fox says:

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”

    “It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

    “A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”

    “The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.”

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
    ? Samuel Adams

    ATF email: [email protected]

  15. Casey says:

    Its sad watching a guy obviously coming unhinged. Hopefully he doesn’t hurt anyone when he truly looses it. You guys have your perfect guide on barer though.

    Dude needs a therapist.

  16. balais says:

    The ATF are scum. They should have been disbanded a long time ago, and their former members shouldn’t hold positions any greater than that of “mall security guard”. Agents moving to other agencies should start all over again with retraining, as if their years in service amounted to nothing.

    That goes for the DEA and DHS as well.

    You few sycophants keep defending them. Im sure theyll save the fuzzy handcuffs for you.

  17. M.W says:

    Just this past Friday I was stopped for a “window tint” infraction by Oceanside PD with an incomplete 80% lower and a boxed upper receiver from Ares Armory on my passenger side floor board. I had just bought the upper to complete the lower and was headed back to work.
    When the officer approached the window I asked if I could reach over to the glove box to remove registration and insurance information and he observed the lower.
    I spent the next 45 minutes PRAYING that everything that I had read, everything that I had been told and everything that I believed was accurate about the legality of these lower receivers. Fortunately for me, after a supervisor arrived who knows Mr. Karras personally and understood the legality of these items, I was sent off with my window tint infraction.

  18. John Smith says:

    The ATF seems to be the most efficient practitioner of bureaucratic violence in a well developed crowd of experts in the field. The reason, I would guess- is a culture that values the minutiae minded parsing of the most narrow tangents in law enforcement.
    These things they do without regard to the larger effects on our democratic culture. No one in that particular regulatory castle seems sensitive to the fact that this particular point of contact (2A et al ) has grave ramifications if conducted poorly.

    In my opinion, they are conducting it poorly.