This photo was recently released by the Department of Defense. It looks like he’s wearing CADPAT but not sure why. Maybe he’s playing OPFOR or maybe he just wants some camouflage that actually works.
A cavalry scout with Troop A, 6th Squadron, 8th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, observes for enemy movement while mounted on a Humvee (sic) on Fort Stewart, Ga., March 9, 2015, during Vanguard Focus, a brigade level training exercise to validate the unit’s combat readiness.
US Army Photo by SGT Joshua Laidacker, 4th IBCT, 3rd ID, Public Affairs
That brown looks awful dark for CADPAT. Looks to be isoluminant with the mid-green, whereas CADPAT typically has the brown isoluminant with the light green.
I agree, the colors do look kinda weird. It could be a rip-off he got from a local army-navy store.
If only I could talk to the guy in the picture….
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b2f_1426926048
Looks a lot like Estonian camo
Colors, definitely, though Estonian looks like it’s got a lot more light green, while this looks more CADPAT-esque in being medium-green-dominant.
By shape definetly Estonian digicamo. Just dirty or washed.
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Estonia
UCP-D dyed green? That would be my guess.
Jon, OPT
then explain the black O.o
Poop
Well, then maybe that’s an answer to the Army’s problems.
Nah, the Army aint about that green life anymore, its all about the brown. 😉
To solve the US Army’s camouflage uniform issue, just spray paint olive drab green or khaki onto the Digital Grey Uniform and it is that simple than just buying OCP uniforms. However, I’m lucky to not become interested in enlisting into the US Army because the higher powers in that military branch do not care about winning any wars and truly care more about their own personal interests.
I chuckle at the thought you actually believe a soldier would be able to get away with that.
And we in the US Army are glad that you didn’t enlist. Please stay at home. Please.
Textanker, your response was very honest and I might as well stay the he55 stay away from the US Military since I don’t like the idea of losing to some third world animal fckrs. On a side note, tell the Texas state gov. to succeed from the Union and keep it that way.
grammatical error: secede
SilverDragon,
Where do I start? This forum is for grown ups. You open your comments with insults to the people in uniform, and the state of Texas. Then, you insult the people of the Middle East (ref: your comment about animal fckrs). The majority of people in uniform sacrifice a great deal because they care about this country. If it were not for my desire to serve a greater cause, I would not have been in the military for almost twenty years. And, not everyone in Texas or the Middle East is an asshole.
Your lack of useful contributions causes me to think that you are a young, unhappy person; trying to gain happiness by making semi-clever comments about things you don’t understand.
I am asking you nicely. Please do not come to this forum in an effort to start a troll-war with people who have ACTUALLY DONE SOMETHING GOOD for the nation.
I know your going to reply with some half-assed, almost funny response, but you will be the only one laughing.
In regards to Texas being able to secede from the Union, this state has a legitimate reason otherwise and seceding wasn’t legal during the American Civil War due to the issue of slavery. I am not here to laugh nor make stupid remarks, but the Middle Eastern area has similarity in terms of ideology just like Vietnam. From a historical perspective, The Middle East doesn’t care about their own people and they are hellbent on killing everyone else on the planet to seize power and land.
He is playing OPFOR for 4BCT, FWIW.
Italian vegetato pattern?
lightest color is too green for vegetata, pixel shapes are square rather than the more organic look of vegetata, and the macro composition is more fragmentary in this.
Interesting! Canadian Exchange Soldier? (j/k)
Camo stories fascinate me. Hope someone gets to the bottom of this.
Having the same problem trying to ID a helmet cover pattern in an Army pic for a Lebanon ’57 article editing.
“I’m editing.” (sorry)
If your still stuck, try reaching out to the ICUS community. They seem to be able to figure that stuff out most of the time.
http://camouflagesociety.org/
Thanks!
looks like this Finnish Combat Uniform
https://domhyde.wordpress.com/category/camouflage-design/page/2/
Hires: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B1lG42vwFGI/VQrdZ1XAZoI/AAAAAAAAKVY/FjUSXdumdo8/w2048-h1365/16831193246_43a2c0475a_k.jpg
You can make out some tan velcro on his shoulder and a green button on his cuff. Probably not ACU.
In Hi-res it looks more like CADPAT.
He’s definitely wearing a CADPAT combat shirt. Our combats are very prone to fading and his looks somewhat worn / faded. The colours can also be quite different depending on the batch. I had one set of combats that were kind of orange-tinged, and others that looked more normally coloured. All of them got faded after a year or so of use. That small velcro tab on his shoulder is where we attached our velcro Canadian flags (white / red for garrison, OD for the field). Interesting that they’d be using a CADPAT uniform for OPFOR, but I guess you gotta use what you have.
The Estonian stuff is interesting. It’s basically identical to really cheap ripoff CADPAT stuff, usually for the airsoft market. Few companies actually have a license to produce genuine CADPAT, so the cheap made-in-China stuff uses an off-colour facsimile. I guess the Estonians liked it enough to use it.
Army’s just preparing for when you guys invade and try to turn us into Amerida.
Try you say, HA !
your shelves are all ready stocked with Maple syrup, bacon and molson golden, wait till we parachute in the french strippers, resistance is futile.
A classic SNL skit that parodied the mini series Amerika. Old school zing!
Jon, OPT
Look more closely. Our flag velcro is sewn on at the shoulder seam. In this photo it is near where the shoulder pockets are. This is neither a standard issue new, or old style Canadian shirt. It might be CADPAT- but it’s not issued. Also look at the button on the cuff- it is slotted in the wrong direction. Then old shirts aren’t sewn like that, and the new shirts don’t have a cuff that opens in the same manner.
Last year, 4th Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division served as the opposing forces, OPFOR, support during XCTC for the 53rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team and now it is our turn to return the favor. Later on this month, the 53rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team will take over for 6th Squadron, 8 Cavalry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, as the OPFOR during the 4th IBCT’s Vanguard Focus training exercise.
Quoted from 53rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team Bookface page.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9UG4ct2rYGDSFhRZl9DM3pxZTg/edit?usp=docslist_api
Here’s the link from 53 IBCT’s 1-153 CAV video from Operation Vanguard Focus. They took over as OPFOR from 6-8 for the final iteration with 1-30 IN.
Chillax guys – its just some slightly faded CADPAT.
It’s CADPAT. You can just see the tab on the left shoulder where the Cdn flag would be attached.
Nevermind, the cuff button is not the slotted type.
I choose to see this as a sign that the army will adopt AOR camo!
lol ummm no. Scorpion it is.
a woodland and desert pattern have yet to chosen so its possible
Really? Are you sure it really is Scorpion at this point?
That intrigues me since the only people that get AOR1/2 right now are SOs/SBs and certain support personnel. Everyone else deploys with NWUII (tan digi) or NWUIII(green digi) WARCOM is very jealously guarding even the NWUII.
…..NWUII is AOR 1 and NWUIII is AOR 2….
Somewhere a CSM just blew a gasket!
Sorry boys thats legit. We have canadians constantly on joint excerises with the Americans, two summers ago I was on ex in Fort Stewart. sometimes our stuff is not compatible with american training instruments so we wear the stuff the american provide. Or this dink lost or left stuff at home not knowing that he would be conducting this type of training.
we also trade combats alot. that is also a possibility.
Dangit, now I want to go get some CADPAT
Enough with the camo, let’s discuss that sweet stache
He is playing OPFOR for Vanguard Focus and they issued us 3 different types of camo to wear. It’s just old excess stuff.
What is that giant green box that he is looking at?
It is called an LRAS3. Long range sight.
The majority of the time private contractors provide the clothing to opfor during those XCTC training rotations. I’m willing to bet that this is just the cheapest pattern that the lowest bidding contractor could find at the time that wasn’t an Army issued camo pattern/color…….
Usually OPFOR uniforms are anything but what the BLUFOR wears, in the 90’s it was commonly BDU tops turned inside out, old chocolate chips, or OG107. I haven’t heard of contractor provided uniforms.
Jon, OPT
Last year we played OPFOR for a VA NG unit for an XCTC rotation. OPFOR uniforms were BDUs—-although in the case of one guy, it was an original ERDL top…
He was playing op against my battalion the uniform was just what we could find laying around everyone running around fighting in acu’s was hard to tell who was who