During SHOT Show, SureFire debuted a product called the Blast Diffuser. Although it looks like a miniature suppressor, it isn’t. Now called the “Warden” it adapts (via the SureFire Quick Attach mechanism) to SF SOCOM muzzle brake / suppressor adapters and pushes the concussion of the muzzle brake forward, away from the shooter and those next to him.
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I don’t see anything about this on Surefire’s website yet so the big question is this:
Does it impede the function of the muzzle brake? If not, why was the brake not designed this way in the first place?
Comps/Brakes put a tremendous amount of blast out the sides, that how they work.
I understand this, I am running the SOCOM brake currently and am pleased with it. What I don’t understand is how this product will affect that functionality, although I presume it virtually negates the braking effects, which makes it an expensive paperweight for guys like me who aren’t in a foxhole.
I realize this product is likely not designed for guys like me, but if it allows the brake to do its job, it is still useful to me. That’s why I’m asking. Insight from anyone more educated than myself is greatly appreciated!
It is somewhat of a foolish product. If you’re doing CQB and worried about side-blasting your teammate, you’d be using your surefire suppressor. Pure range toy.
It might be quite appropriate for range use and most appreciated by those around you. Nothing wrong with that.
It looks like a nice tool to have in the range bag at an action shooting match IF – and only if – the muzzle brake still works inside it. It sure would be gentler on barricades and I suspect it’ll reduce dust kick-up on prone shots.
Thanks for the info!
While I LOVE muzzle brakes, they’re not fun in classes or in a home SD environment. SO the idea that one can pop this on and be less blasty to the guy next to you in class, or rupture everyone in the house’s eardrums, isn’t a bad idea. For those who can afford and use Suppressors, this has no purpose.
Personally, I had HOPED that in negating the effect of the muzzle brake, that these devices would mitigate flash (turning an MB into a FH), but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case.
** IF you want a brake that STILL retains some braking with a diffuser on, the Ferfrans is supposed to be pretty good at that.
The Kineti-Tech Muzzle Brake offers a low cost competitor going for $60 for both brake and diffuser. Of interesting note is what the threads ALSO fit if you feel daring, but I’m keeping that hush hush…
hahaha… it has the same threads as a repurposed “solvent trap”.
From what I have seen in person from other shooters and my own trying of devices such as this, they do not diminish the flash hiding or muzzle control capabilities of said muzzle devices the surround.
I like this idea a lot as most of the shooters I know with SureFire brakes do run them without the suppressor in place. This is fine when in a state that allows NFA items. The problem shows itself when travelling to states like Commifornia where our Non-LEO and Non-Militaty cans are not allowed. This provides some level of comfort for the shooter behind the gun but especially their neighbors. This device becomes very welcome when shooting in close confident to each other and as teams where the side blast can be absolutely brutal.
Man….noveske better catch up to the technology…..
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/514194/noveske-flash-hider-kx3-pig-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-parkerized
Oh wait.
The PIG is not an attractive option for many because many shooters are not eager to keep attaching and detaching muzzle devices to the barrel itself.
I think this looks like a nice option for a specific purpose, but it will be prohibitively expensive, being a Surefire product and all.
The good news is that basically EVERY manufacturer is coming out with a version that will be cheaper. Griffin did theirs, Lantac’s doing theirs, etc.
And, they will be compatible with their muzzle devices. This is compatible with the SF SOCOM muzzle device and uses the same quick attach mechanism as the SF suppressor.
This will be very nice to have on a rifle during classes so you’re not pissing on the people next to you. Then during matches just take it off.
I think what B says hits the concept behind this product. I find it pure genious after being on the line on either side of someone with a SOCOM break.
Its not only for firing lines. If you are in in the house you would probably have a can on. The real value of running this would be on a short barreled gun with a comp or flashhider, if you were working from a Indig Vehicle.
For example conducting a CTR, you get compromised and have to fight from a car. You aren’t wearing over the ear peltors, and it may be a confined space with all the windows rolled up. Both the flash hider and brake could be horrid if you have to like shoot like across the driver.
This is shorter than a can, doesn’t get as hot as a can, nor weigh is much as a can. It is a specialized tool, but it is something with real operational need.
I like it. I have an SF flash hider on my 10.3″ SBR. I have an SF can for it and have some fire etching inside since this barrel is right at the edge of what they recommend to use. While I know SF cans are extremely durable, I’d prefer to mount a brake to diffuse some of that initial blast inside the can. However, shooting a 10″ gun with SF brake is obnoxious, to put it lightly. I’d love to be able to cover up that brake with this diffuser if/when I am shooting without the can on.
Hopefully they will make it so it attaches to the old “legacy” series muzzle brakes aswell.
That’s exactly what I’m wondering. Will this fit on a 215FH or that sort of thing?
Yes it will fir the legacy adapters. It will not have the indexing system but it will work.
Im pretty sure that none of you calling this a paperweight has ever actually fired your weapon with a break in a building, vehicle or in close quarters on a consistent basis. This product does what it was designed to do which is redirect the blast and noise significantly. Those of you who hunt out of a box blind will love it.Please shoot your rifle with just your socom break with no plugs or ears and then With something like this.night and day. Shoot 500rds with the break only, no ears wake up and do it with the warden or any other blast shield. Its also very simple to understand if you know anything about sound waves, pressure, direction or just simple 3rd grade science…….anyone that doubts this i will let you try one out
Since a muzzle break helps redirect some of the blast to the sides, this redirects it forward. Would there be a performance hit as a result?