Just reported by DoD!
Sig Sauer Inc., Newington, New Hampshire, was awarded a $580,217,000 firm-fixed-price contract for the Modular Handgun System including handgun, accessories and ammunition to replace the current M9 handgun. Bids were solicited via the Internet with nine received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Jan. 19, 2027. Army Contracting Command, Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey, is the contracting activity (W15QKN-17-D-0016).
Is it the p320?
It’s the P320, However, who knows what exact variant it’ll be or what changes they made (manual safety?) or even what caliber they offered. I have a feeling the details will emerge very soon.
Yes P320 with an external safety. In two colors, the more traditional dark one and this FDE model.
Wait… for real? This isn’t some kind of April fools thing?
why?!?
The government NEVER fails to live down to my expectation. Modular + Handgun + System = FAIL
Just wait till they award CHICKENHAWK!!!! a contract for DERPA holsters to carry the gun in and it will negate any positive that the P320 had.
Not surprised and yet surprised that Sig won. Expected FNH or S&W solely for the ability to have a safety or the DA/SA stupidity. The Glock would of had to fight so much institutional issues to win, it would of been a miracle.
What institutional issues? I think it can be fairly said the Glock has a very good tenure in SOCOM and that isn’t changing. Many stakeholders in the MHS used the SOCOM program for the Glock 19 as something the MHS should be scrapped in favor of.
External safety for one.
PNWTO – how the handgun is taught and used by non SOCOM types. For example look at the “Groundbreaking” handgun program the Marines rolled outa couple years back. Lightyears behind current knowledge in the industry and yet by all accounts ahead of what was and is being taught.
Not saying I have any solutions at all, as my lane is LE and we have so many of the same issues – people who sholdn’t carry a gun carrying a gun and as such training programs tweaked to ensure those people can keep carrying a gun.
What SOCOM likes ain’t what the Larger Service likes by a long shot.
It takes way more hours (and rounds) than most Conventional commands will allocate to weapons training (and the combative mindset) essential to preventing NDs.
Between Beretta, Glock and Sig, my under-trained ass can run a Sig better than the other two. Sample of one. I wonder if an equally under-trained selection body had the same experience…
The Sig Sauer P226 MK25, P228 and P938 have also been carried by SOCOM for years too.
The P320 was offered with a safety for the MHS. Not sure if that is what the Army selected.
OH BOY HERE WE GO
Which gun, I wonder.
The new P210 American of course.
I played with it this week. It’s cool.
Modular Handgun SIGstem!
They did the smart thing! My P320 has been my favorite striker fired handgun of all time. I have shot it side by side with many others including the HK VP and it flat out kicks ass in every way over any I’ve compared to.
Well done Army, you did the right thing. I thought for sure you were going to go Glock and non-modular.
I’m glad the P320 worked for you, but for many of us, we’ve been burned by SIG’s quality control (or lack thereof).
Doubtful military handgun training is going to substantially improve soon. The money spent could’ve been out to greater use by buying M9A3’s and spending the rest on training and improved maintenance.
For what SIG is charging, you couldn’t have upgraded your M9s.
If I am reading what was released correctly including training, spare parts, everything else it is coming to about $1,000 a pistol.
It includes the ammo and depots worth of spare parts, and mags. The actual per pistol cost hasn’t been published yet.
Now watch as the Army adopts the pistol but sets aside zero time or money or effort into transition training or ammo – and we breed another generation of Soldiers who cannot shoot their pistols for crap, and who think the gun is the problem as a result.
Happened with the M1911, happened with the M9, and it will happen again.
Even bayonets get more training time than pistols for the vast majority of the Army.
That’s 100% command discretion at the O-6/O-7 level.
I walked off a job where the ammo allocation for a unit going into harms way was put on the table for the (never-deployed) RM to trade.
Granted, Mob Site is a completely different allocation, but guess where Mob Site trimmed training to ensure everyone flew with up-to-date dental work and Cultural Sensitivity training? Yup, range time–specifically “secondary” weapons (only “assigned” for 5% of the unit by the Cold War paradigm)–even as the biggest hazard downrange was Green on Blue inside the wire at pistol distances.
Completely validates your point, but most joes know the name of the commander that set them up for failure in that area. We like to blame “cultures” and presume the decisions were made above the level of people we hope know better.
I thought the Army completely discountinued bayonet training several years ago?
Expect Sig to become the new H&K because you Suck and…
SIG? WTF? I just threw up I’m my mouth. Doesn’t SIG stand for Sub-par Imitation Glock?
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
You sound very convincing. You must be speaking from much experience on the matter.
Pistols are for swoopie people. I never thought in my grunt brain, “Boy I wish I had a 9mm right now in this firefight.” I am excited to hear that Sig Sauer has this contract but handguns are a not priority in the world I know.
I feel exactly the same way as Jon anf I would like to echo some similar feelings that straps has above.
My last years in the Army I noticed a very large neglect when it came to even anything related to a rifle, range time (especially), and even simple classes as well. There was a larger and inappropriate attention towards hand to hand combat, when we train for an attack that has already been allowed to happen. I am NOT speaking about company level, the message is well above that level, and its speaks of a larger neglect when the training focus is either in the wrong direction or in the case of a new pistol contract, the wrong direction.
It’s the proper training that is needed, and the money and attention is needed there.
It’s the indian, not the arrow.
With what gun?
I am surprised by reading a lot of the comments. Sig only listened to what listed as the needs for a pistol to replace the M9. If I remember correctly, Sig came in second behind Beretta 92F when they did this back in the 70’s to replace the 1911. I was a big fan of DA/SA pistols and the why they shot, but they were that next generation replacing the 1911. Now with the next generation of striker fired pistols, there are so many choices out there. So are some people sad that their favorite pistol did not get picked? Probably. What you should be asking yourself with your favorite manufacturer is why have they not made any major changes to their platforms. Going from one year to the next just to release what they call the next generation with a couple of changes is not going to win awards.
Is modular the right way to go? That is what they deemed as the next step to make it easier and cheaper in the long run to maintain a pistol. The long term costs also include training and having skilled armors in place.
Congrats to SIG. Any of their pistols I’ve owned or used has been reliable.
I just hope Big Green finally starts to revamp the entire training system and allocates more funds to get the job done.
The models in the picture look optics-ready. That’s very progressive for the Army. I’m surprised.
Holy crap you guys, can you show me on the doll where Sig violated you?
In defense of the whiners, Sig has a recent history of pitching modular platforms and never actually making those modular components available after the fact. However, the P320 seems like the first platform they actually made good on that selling point and the new contract should only further bolster availability on that front.
“Holy crap you guys, can you show me on the doll where Sig violated you?”
That’s the funniest shit I have read all day.
Made me LAUGH!!
I like that the MHS is tan colored. Hopefully rifles and light machine guns will be next…
Yeah the tan gun above with safety switches is the one I played wth this week. There is a push in the army the move to more tan items.
If I’m not mistaken the SIG also won the DHS ICE handgun contract….smells like a fix!
Was it announced? I thought it was still in source selection.
Just hit 8k rounds on my p320 carry gun this week. It has a great trigger, the finish has held up well, it’s reliable, easy to carry and disassemble. Only things changed were installing trijicon HD sights and a new recoil spring at 5k rounds. Great pistol.