Grey Group Training got the scoop on a new rail mounted front sight from TangoDown that is designed to accommodate top mounted lights such as the Inforce model seen in these photos. It will also accommodate the SureFire 300.
I run a top mounted X300 on one of my carbines but it has to sit in front of the fixed front sight on a Daniel Defense rail. I like having the light there with the high thumb grip but this would be better than my current setup as it would move the front sight even further out and increase the sight radius.
For more info visit community.greygrouptraining.com/2012/11/28/tango-down-prototype-rail-mounted-front-sight
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A little bit of genius goes a long way. Good job to all involved.
(Takes Inforce WML and mimics the pass-thru using fingers)
I see a little bit of splash sacrifice using the WML but it’s not much. It would be cool to see a draft widening in the muzzle direction to compensate. Obviously there’s still barrel shadow to contend with. Overall very innovative application! Look forward to seeing how the product finalizes.
After the industry views these images, it may just be a matter of time before another manufacturer fabricates either a new light with integrated front sight // OR // a retrofit bulb front is released with integrated front sight post. Only time will tell…
It’s certainly a good idea, as a concept. I like stuff that aims to solve problems, but before I took this out on a mission I’d want to frolic with it for a good bit, first. I do rather like the peripheral lighting cutdown – target illumination is, of course, the primary function with a flashlight – but there will not be quite so much light splash to illuminate adjacent teammates. That might perhaps be confining for some, but if you need oodles of all-over lighting, have your last man flip the switch.
To me, the front sight assembly looks as though it will not be as rigid as it might otherwise be, because of the split in the Allen channel at the bottom. The top is obviously one piece, so the variable there is the flexibility within the entire system. I do readily admit that this could be quite easily be a non-issue, though, and it can be tested.
This thing is very rigid/solid – it’s made of steel.
Thanks MM
Slight hijack: Has anyone seen a folding front sight post which is narrow enough to not get splash from the lazer on an ATPIAL? if i mount the lazer on top, i see splash from the vis laser on the rail bracket.
That is a good question.
I believe the soon to be released Unity Tactical Fusion system has a solution to this.
Troy folding sights get no splash from a LA-5.
Had a similar idea a while back…great to see other people thinking the same, but making it happen.
Now if there was a way to keep both a white light AND a laser, in line above the barrel…that would be something.
Someone needs to come up wtih an x400 version
I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing.
Using my google-fu, I came up wtih the following:
co-witness height for an M4 – 1.4″ above the top surface of the rail.
Surefire X-400 1.86″ high
So it looks like it can’t be done without raising the sight-line from the standard M4 height, something as likely to be accepted by Americans as the Metric system 🙁
I am on the verge of a Kickstarter project for something similar. Been on it for about a year now. I know Surefire had something like this 2 years ago and never moved with it.
LIKE IT!!!!!!! iv hashed out the same but with a laser…LOL you snooze you lose!
Lots of good lights out there these days with even more ingenious mounting solutions, just wish some of the lights had nav lights built in. The 1+ about the old SF M900’s was the red nav lights. S/F
I’d like to see someone incorporate an LED at the front of a 4″ rail panel, like a tangodown SCAR panel, with a small recessed integral pressure pad and powered by a coin battery. momentary on/off only.