Here’s a closer look at the Australian Army SCE Packs that were briefly mentioned in the latest issue of the Australian Army Defence Newspaper.
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Holy cow that ruck looks huge.
I would like the list of gear that goes inside Please…
Everything and anything including the kitchen sink, tennis court, barbie, swimming pool and maybe some cricket stumps and a footy too so you can live in a lap of luxury at the bivouac while you watch the cav guys try and outdo each other by seeing how long they can live in their vehs without leaving it or touching the ground.
*deep breath* just kidding (mostly), but you get the gist.
Yet more proof that I’m not the only fan of the 1606 Frame mated to ALICE or ALICE clone packs.
TLB
YES!!! A.L.I.C.E. rules!!! OK, I’m too darn old to sound like a 15 yr. old again, but it is nice to know that some people still believe in the old ideas. Hey, even the Marine Corps has designed a new pack. Just circle the wagons and dunk it all in — the way you want it — no compartments to get stuff lost forever. (I do like the modern packs for family road trips and vacations, but the old rucksacks are my favorite for tactical packing.) Of course, somebody needs to call Superman to carry this stuff for the Aussie soldiers.
Looks a lot like my TT Malice but, dare I say, roomier. Seems to be very well thought out. Now if the Army would only ditch their crappy rucks so guys wouldn’t have to spend 400 bucks on their own…
I wanna hump the shit out of that big one, if you know what I mean. I bet it is 12 pounds minimum.
Interesting to see the new Aussie multicam pattern, quite a bit of a ‘jungle’ green in the mix.
This was reportedly a result of the latest collaboration between Crye Precision and Aust armed forces. Not bad at all.
Its good too see the Aussies know what there doing in regards to its soldiers packs, when New Zealand went too the useless Camel bak tri zip day bag and the terminator field pack but expensive and too small to effectively carry even the base issue kit let alone spare ammo, rations or spec equipment and just all round impractical.
Good work Australia – jealous in NZ
Too right mate. I’d give my left nut to have this over a terminator. The lack of load carriage in that P.O.S is the main reason why I went back to the issued alice (albeit modified to buggery). Come on NZ, procure us something usable for a change.
You guys are bitching about getting way better bags than we in the states get. Try doing infantry work with a issue molle II ruck and assault pack, try working in a army that designs it’s gear for the reservists then issues it to front line light infantry units.
After the rubbish packs issued prior, it’s nice and refreshing to see the 1606 frame. I’d reserve judgement until I’ve actually gotten my hands on one though, items with the broad arrow on them usually vary from absolute rubbish to decent quality.
I use to be all about big rucks with large capacities. but i have started to get away from that, since larger the ruck the more i tend to carry, and most of it tends to me “like to have” rather need to have. the other issue with larger packs with pockets is the weight. a ruck that weighs 10lbs i feel is 5 lbs to heavy.
The infantryman and artillery PESA requires a standard of 15km whilst carrying 45kg to be done in about 3 hours or less to be met. A ruck of that size is more or less a requirement not a luxury.
Are you talking from a soldier’s or an airsofter’s perspective?
I was never given a choice given between the “…“like to have” rather need to have…” as you seem to.
It’s always been must-have and believe me that was much more than you mention above.
talking from an infantryman. Been light infantry for 13 years with 4 deployments.
Wow, defence made some sort of Frankenstein of a pack and a complete copy of the bullock echo.
Why didn’t defence just ask platatac to do a tender for the pack rather than copy it?
Aaaaaaand the Bullock Echo is a “reimagination” of the Eagle Yote.
Absolutely LOVE the fact that the Aussies, Brit’s, Kiwi’s and U.S. Forces all use their own ‘flavours’ of Crye’s MultiCam!! I’ve even seen the odd image of our own CSOR(Canadian Special Operations Regt) wearing MultiCam’s. Truly halcyon days for fans of Caleb’s MultiCam(of which, I am!). Cheers and thank you Eric for yet another informative SSD post!!!
Who makes this pack? I would love to give it a shot.
thinking it is Crossfire Australia
Looks gorgeous.
Probably the best looking rucksack I’ve ever seen.
Think it is Crossfire Australia
Not seeing much in the way of a load-bearing waist belt. If it’s 2015, and you’re still dragging all that stuff with your shoulders, you’re doing it wrong. (dead horse soundly beaten)
I ruck 35+kg every day for 30 minutes with a kidney pad and shoulder straps similar to the design in the photos. It’s not too bad, the ALICE style kidney pad and straps are okay and seems to distributes the significant amount of weight to the hips and lumbar area. Being 159cm tall doesn’t seem to help either, and personally for myself the Futura and NICE from Mystery Ranch is the gold standard especially for vertically-challenged individuals such as myself but the ALICE works, whether used on its own, with a plate carrier, waist mounted fat man belt rigs, or all three in conjunction with each other.
That said though, by the time i’ve hit 60 i’ll probably be in a wheelchair.
Agreed. The belt is the most important part of any large pack, the bag is just the thing you put stuff in.
I also don’t get the trend of using an external frame and then placing so much foam between you and it that you negate the advantages (airflow, armor compatibility).
I can assure you all, that pack pictured above IS NOT a Crossfire product.
Crossfire and Mystery Ranch offered a suite of packs based on the NICE frame.
The basic dismounted pack offered to line infantry was the Crossfire DG-6 AUSNICE (reviewed by myself here: http://packsandbeyond.com/2013/04/review-crossfire-dg-6-ausnice/ )
Specialist packs such as the Crew Cab and the Overload were offered as part of the suite.
The Crossfire packs (I have the DG3 & DG8) shit all over this thing. The only external frame pack they do is the DG6 and the pack in the photo is not a DG6. INTERNAL frames are the way to go. The DG8 would be a better choice (if you want lots of room) than the pack in the photo.
So the question remains….who makes the pack and where do I get it
It’s made by ADA.
I don’t believe it will be commercially available, and quite honestly, that is a good thing since most commercially available packs are much better.
I think the CP AirFrame covers are ADA as well.
Not platatac? the multicam helmet covers we had for the ACH where platatac.
I have a feeling that ADA is seen as the new “one stop shop” for ADF procurement.
Previous incarnations of this management practice have been less than optimal. Maybe they can get over it this time round?