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Breaking – US Army Realizes It Can Roll Sleeves On ACUs
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I read the Wall Street Journal front-page article on this. It really made me feel old to realize that there is now a generation of soldiers who had never seen rolled sleeves, that for them it was a jarring and foreign concept, and that, judging by the photo, they didn’t know how to roll them Army BDU-style.
The worst thing was the idea that, if approved, sleeve rolling season be limited to Memorial Day through Labor Day, or some such nonsense, instead of the common sense, local command option / local weather rule that was so painfully evolved and finally adopted back in the days when when we wore BDU’s.
I know the Army goes around in circles, but why, oh why, must it be SO painful and embarrassing? Can’t anyone remember more than 10 minutes ago??
Tropical areas wore them year round rolled up, Hawaii and Okinawa in my own personal experience. Stateside did the memorial – labor day thing IIRC, but yeah, common sense is not a common virtue.
I was in the OD Green Army. Didn’t realize that soldiers could not roll up their sleeves.
At Ft Benning and later Schofield Barracks we wore sleeves rolled up in garrison and down in the field.
Shouldn’t be so surprised. Land Nav, Personal camoflage, digging a slit trench, vehicular evac of wounded during the golden hour, digging a fighting position, brevity on the radio etc. are all old skills/concepts that were second nature to us yet reports coming out of the CTC’s site them as almost new concepts to troops not used to fighting from stationary support complexes.
True
CAMO OUT DAN!….
Oh, the Memorandum just loaded on my screen…I see it’s approved; and no seasonal nonsense. Nevermind my rant…save it for some other topic. 🙂
Cuffing in the field is already common practice for units in hot climates, AR 670-1 be damned.
This is just bread and circuses to distract us from the BAH cuts, changing the retirement plan and gutting the commissaries.
Cuffing makes so much sense.
So much air and you still get forearm protection!
the oxymoron with rolling your sleeves up because it’s hot is the fact that you cut off any airflow… mid forearm roll is the best of both worlds.
also camo in.
If only
I agree. Mid forearm roll is the best. Marines go crazy getting insanely tight sleeves around their biceps and I always thought it was ridiculous. The “gunny” roll is the way to go and looks the best too.
As a Marine, I might be labeled a heretic to say this but Im out so screw it lol. I was happy when we got the order to keep our sleeves down year round in the rear! As a boot, I thought the tight white sleeves looked cool but having to wear it all the damn time in the rear got old quick. There is no tactical purpose for rolled sleeves that I know of and having tight sleeves pressed against my guns made the already hot 50/50 NYCO twill blouse even hotter to wear in the summer time. Im so glad I deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times, its actually much cooler when air flows through my loose sleeves rolled up once when I have to wear cammies. Wearing full FROG everyday for a whole deployment is even better!
I’m glad you guys in the Army are finally getting rid of that atrocity known as UCP and no longer have that TOOL SMA Chandler around. I always thought it was a smart decision on the Armys part to do away with rolled sleeves. Its funny I notice the biggest fans of rolled sleeves are typically guys that don’t go out to the field much or do dirty work in the rear.
JH +1
Just got the DENIED letter from our state. Until further review blah blah blah pending evaluation…
They might want to consider going with a straighter sleeve cut on the ACU . I know I can’t camo out roll them when they fit. Every once in a while you would find a tight cuffed BDU jacket, but ACUs just have too much taper.
This just in, US Army has made a startling discovery, night follows day.
This is insane. The next thing you know they will be permitting transgendered people to be serve in the military.
Back to mandatory sleeve rolling?
I’m sure it’s coming and it looks like shit with the ACU.
It looks like a crappy T-Shirt with camo out. Reminds me of the UCP short sleeved scrubs, just never looked right.
The only service that should be allowed to roll up the sleeves is the Air Force, as theirs primary role is to LOOK COOL… 😉
If only we could spell correctly…
you know what’s gonna drive SGM’s crazy…when I store my pen in my left sleeve roll…
Some people just want to see the world burn. Well done.
^
Winner.
Wait, wait. Last sentence of #3, one can tuck the cuff inside the sleeve?! I don’t have a dog in fight anymore, but I did that constantly when it came time to play outside (whether it was training or deployment).
Distraction from the coming FY17 E7-E9 slaughtering that is about to happen?
Think of all the dirt that won’t have lines and the grass that won’t be trimmed. Oh the horror!
For those of us in that rank bracket that don’t care about any of those things, it’s a cause for a bit of teeth gnashing.
That already happened, but it will continue until you have SSG PSGs, SFC 1SG, and MSG CSMs (all frocked of course all the power and none of the pay). It will be funny to see how in the next five and six years as most of the combat hardened senior NCOs get out of the military and all of the deployment dodgers get promoted and take over. It will be just like in the 80’s and 90’s (from what I have heard did not serve during that time as I am way too young).
now to actually comment on the posting. I have already seen soldiers rolling their sleeves this week and I think it looks like hot garbage. The BDU sleeve rolling was stupid and provided the 1SG and the CSM another thing to bitch at Joe for because if I remember correctly it was originally that your roll had to be above the elbow and had to be as wide as your cuff. I hated doing it because I spent money on getting my uniform pressed and then I would have to screw up my press job to roll my sleeves. Now on to the part of rolling the cuff inward; that policy should have been implemented years ago. I have done it for years and now I can roll my sleeves up due to where I work now, but I believe the military should reduce some of the stupid while in a field or combat environment. I think that the army would be more secessful if they would stop worrying about the following in combat / field environments: Rolling of your sleeves, wear of hiking boots, wearing one knee pad instead of two, and get rid of elbow pads! But who am I? (Rhetorical question; for those who do not know what a rhetorical question is; it is a question that does not need an answer).
Why is god’s name would you have a utility/combat uniform pressed?
Because that was the standard back in the day, back before the GWT. I don’t know when it started but by the time I got in during the early to mid ’90s the requirement by the Corps was to have your BDUs pressed when in garrison. Also, despite apparent warnings by the BDU manufacturer to not do so, we also starched our cammies in addition to having them pressed; some Marines would have them starched and pressed at a dry cleaner and they would come out as stiff as a board.
They spelled Washington wrong in the header. Look!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOUR RIGHT!! Makes me wonder if we are all getting trolled.
I saw that. Makes me wonder if SMA was in such a hurry to get this out the door that he typed the whole thing himself.