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The Baldwin Files – The Issue MOLLE 4000 Airborne Rucksack

It has been awhile since I have done an article on tactical gear. In the last few days, I managed to get my hands on the new issue version of the Molle 4000 “Airborne” Rucksack. I do not own a lab coat so I am not in the position to objectively and scientifically test this ruck; but I can provide my initial professional evaluation. The opinions I am offering are influenced by my specific experiences and individual preferences; but I think I can provide some broadly applicable and valid observations and hopefully useful practical information for the reader.

Up front, I will make these points to frame my comments and for the reader to keep in mind. There is no such thing as perfect gear. I have never been issued or bought any load-bearing item that I was completely satisfied with out of the wrapper – ever. I believe that everything can be improved and even the best and most expensive gear still needs at least some “customization” to be optimized for each individual user. Indeed, I have already done some of that to this sample and will point out a couple of my modifications and my rationale as we go alone.

I did spend most of my military career on Airborne status as a jumper and Jumpmaster; so I have a great deal of hands-on experience with Airborne operations and techniques. I am also incorporating a number of pictures for illustrative purposes, and a couple of earlier SSD articles with other pictures are here and here for additional reference. As pointed out in the previous pieces, this ruck is being issued to the 82nd Airborne Division and other Airborne units in the Army. I expect that will eventually include the Ranger Regiment, SF Groups, and other ARSOF units because of the Army’s Title 10 responsibilities. There is also some indication that the Army is exploring expanding the issue of this ruck to at least some non-Airborne units.

Let us start with a size comparison. From left to right, and largest to smallest, are the Molle Large, the Molle 4000, the ALICE Large, and the Army’s Medium Rucksack. The Medium Rucksack has ~3000 cubic inches of space. I have a couple of extra pouches mounted as well as a beavertail so this one is probably in the ~3500 cubic inch range. The ALICE is approximately ~3800 cubic inches including the exterior pockets. The Molle Large bag is ~4000 alone and ~5000 cubic inches with a pair of Sustainment Pouches added as shown. As the name implies, the Molle 4000 is ~4000 cubic inches including the external pockets. Compared to the Molle Large, the Molle 4000 has considerably less available real estate for additional pouches. Still, although it may not look like it, it is possible to mount the issue Army or USMC Sustainment Pouches in a somewhat compressed fashion on either side as shown on the right of the ruck.

As the picture also shows, the 3 bottom exterior pockets on the Molle 4000 are approximately the same volume as those on the Large ALICE. Although, since the cordura material is stiffer than packcloth, I found that I could stuff just a little more into the ALICE pouches. The two on either side have a pass thru channel behind them like their ALICE counterparts. However, the opening is just barely big enough for a GI Machete Sheath to be slipped in – nothing any wider or fatter. The horizontal strap shown comes with the ruck and is labeled “Molle 4000 Compression Strap.” Back in the day, we used a GP Strap to do the same thing on the ALICE as shown. It serves to cinch the pouches and attached items like E-Tools to the ruck to minimize flop or bounce – much like the Brits use bungee cord around their old-school belt kits. No doubt, an old ALICE hand like me added this throwback item. I think today’s soldiers will find that it is a useful accessory.

The three smaller pockets towards the top of the rucksack look to be identical to the same pouches on the Large ALICE. They are indeed just as wide but are actually about an inch shorter. On the ALICE, those were very popular for everything from toilet paper, 550 cord, bungies for shelters, to dip cans and smokes. I have been told that they were originally sized to hold a 30 round M16 magazine. A magazine will indeed fit in the pocket; however, I never saw anyone use it for that purpose. I am not sure I believe the story anyway because the Large ALICE was type classified several years before the 30 round magazines became standard issue. Because they are not as deep, an M4 magazine will not fit in the small pockets on the Molle 4000. Still, I think the small pockets will be well received and provide troopers the option to segregate small items for quick access.

In its Airborne role, the Molle 4000 is actually only one-half of the equation – truly even less than half. IMHO, the true star of the show is a much improved Harness, Single Point Release, Molle (HSPR-M) that is being issued concurrently as a separate component. Note: NO portion of the new HSPR-M or any other air item is permanently sewn into the rucksack. Indeed, while rigging and de-rigging of the ruck is much faster with this new harness, the process would be very familiar for any American trained as a static line jumper in the last 30 years. That is a big plus; this new harness will be an easy transition for all jumpers and will actually be considerably easier and faster to check during Jumpmaster Personnel Inspections (JMPI). The new harness is also reverse compatible and can be readily used to rig any rucksack or jumpable load that could be rigged with the older HSPR.

In a nut shell, the big difference between the old and the new is that the release mechanism and attaching straps have been moved to the center of the HSPR-M rather than being positioned at one end near the friction adapters (metal buckles), as it was with the earlier version. Now, when rigged, the release mechanism remains centered on the bottom of the ruck while the friction adapters are routed all the way to the top. Throughout the Airborne operation, the jumper has full access to all the exterior pockets and can even access the main rucksack compartment rapidly if needed without completely derigging and rerigging. That feature alone is an especially important and welcome enhancement. That is because, in real-world contingency operations, mission critical items including ammunition and rations are routinely delivered to the jumpers at the airfield and right up to the point of boarding the aircraft. In short, the new HSPR-M represents a significant product improvement.

As far as I can tell, there is no intention to change the current Hook and Pile Tape (HPT) Lowering Line. Hook and Pile Tape = Velcro. As is Army SOP, I expect that current HPT Lowering Lines in OD (as shown) or Foliage will continue to be used as long as they are serviceable. Eventually, new lowering lines will be produced in Tan 499 as replacement items as required. The ALICE was issued with an instruction pamphlet and the Molle System has a manual; however, if there is a pamphlet for the issue Molle 4000, I have not seen it yet. I presume it will be an addendum to the Molle System and other applicable combat equipment rigging manuals shortly.

Consequently, since I have not seen the instructions, some of my observations – especially about rigging procedures – are just educated guesses. However, while I might not have rigged it precisely in accordance with the official SOP, I bet I am real close. I can guarantee that I have rigged this ruck in a way that is safe to jump and will work as intended. However, this is not a rigging class and I will let the pictures speak for themselves for the most part. As I said, those of you with experience with the old HSPR will find it mostly familiar.

 

In some of the pictures, the reader may notice that I replaced all the elastic loops and two sided Velcro that comes with the Molle 4000 for strap management. Instead, I prefer to use ITW triglides. The triglides provide an additional tensioning device and failsafe to keep straps from slipping or coming inconveniently unstowed from an elastic retainer. If you read my three-part article on the ALICE, you also know that I am no fan of wrap around waist belts / pads. Therefore, I also traded out the pad that came with the Molle 4000 for a DEI pad designed for the 1606 frame. It hugs the full curvature around the bottom of the frame. I find that spreads the felt weight across the entire area of the body in contact with the pad. Because of the curve, the pad “cups” the back and sides rather than putting pressure on any one spot.

 

In combat, soldiers put a pack on and off countless times a day in sunlight and darkness and in blizzards and driving rain – and often under fire as well. It is tiring. Uncomplicated is better. Rucksack configurations that are not prone to getting tangled up with other gear or require a lot of fiddling steps to mount and dismount are eminently more practical and appreciated. From my perspective, the DEI style pad integrates much better, especially with the belt worn gear I personally favor, and provides about as much comfort as possible without the negatives. Warfighting ain’t backpacking; and if I am going into a fight this is how I prefer to run my ruck. Otherwise, as the reader can see, the Molle 4000 bag and suspension system is pretty basic. As previously reported, it is a hybrid, half ALICE and half Molle. For example, on the inside (not shown) is an ALICE style sewn in radio pouch and a Molle style zippered panel that can be used to divide the main compartment in half. I think soldiers will actually appreciate the pack’s utilitarian nature.

 

I am not about to throw shade on the people involved in the design, development, or testing of the Molle 4000. I appreciate their hard work and I am sure they delivered exactly what they were asked to deliver. However, I would be negligent if I did not point out the areas that I feel strongly need improvement. Specifically, there are four problems I see with the Molle 4000: one relatively minor, and three major. First, the minor issue. The current drain grommets on the exterior pouches and the bottom stow pocket are too small. They are much smaller than those on the ALICE or the Molle Large. I do not know why. More importantly, while there are small grommets at least on the bottom of the air items stow pocket, there are no drain grommets at all on the bottom of the rucksack itself. Therefore, if water gets into the main compartment of the ruck it will not drain. That should be an easy and quick fix.

 

The second problem is that the zipper providing access to the bottom of the rucksack’s “sleeping bag compartment” is too short. It does not even go half way around the ruck. That means the opening is narrow rather than a fuller size as found on the Molle Large or FILBE. In turn, that means soldiers will have a difficult time getting something the size of a patrol sleeping bag – let alone a full sleep system – through that unnecessarily restrictive opening. In contrast, the zipper on the air items stow pocket goes a full 2/3 of the way around. It is a good thing they added the bottom access zipper; the prototype Molle 4000 did not have one at all. No doubt, soldiers can live with it as is – if absolutely necessary – but they should not have to. Therefore, the bottom of the rucksack needs some modification or even redesign (see problem four) to make access much more user friendly then it is now.

 

The third – and more significant – problem is that the wide upper pad of the Molle 4000 entirely covers the horizontal recurved arms of the 1606 frame. I submit that those arms are its single best feature. Certainly, the center crossbar has to be padded because otherwise it would press uncomfortably against the soldier’s spine. However, as long as about 2 inches on each end are exposed beyond the padding, those arms provides essential “hard points” to tie down heavy and outsized items like mortar baseplates. It would be a shame to keep something like that completely covered up and unavailable when they could be of great utility to the soldier carrying a combat load. Note: the USMC FILBE rucksack also uses the 1606 frame. A friend pointed out to me recently that the FILBE prototypes had a wide pad similar to the Molle 4000, thus leaving the recurve arms unusable. However, the issue FILBE featured a changed pad system that left the ends of those arms exposed rather than covered. I presume that the USMC saw the greater tactical value in making that modification. I suggest the Army do likewise before the Molle 4000 goes into expanded production.

 

The fourth, last, and most glaring, problem with the Molle 4000 is the air item stow pocket arrangement itself. It is a superfluous design gimmick that is more trouble than it is worth. I know someone asked for it – and some people must like it. It is still demonstrably unnecessary. I would argue emphatically that paratroopers have no pressing requirement for a pocket on their rucksack dedicated solely to the storage of air items. The first clue should be the fact that we have gone DECADES without ever identifying the need for such a pocket before. In all my years of jumping, I do not ever recall a single time when stowing my air items – without a dedicated pocket – was a problem. I do not remember it being an issue for anyone else either.

 

Even more to the point, paratroopers have no TACTICAL need whatsoever to carry air items off the dropzone. Once those items have served their one and only purpose – to deliver a paratrooper and his combat load safely to the ground – they are all expendable. They always have been. The stuff is meant to be abandoned in order to unburden the trooper as he moves as rapidly as possible to his unit assembly area and / or combat objective. That includes the parachute, harness, kit bag, weapons cases, HSPR, lowering line, and any other packing material that dropped with us. The troopers shed it all, either immediately upon landing or at the first opportunity. It is dead weight.

 

Sure, we have a habit of bagging it all up and carrying everything to a convenient centralized location so that the Riggers can take the chutes and accessories back to repack and refurbish. That practice is a sensible conservation of our training resources and money. The fact is, we only issue select air items (HSPR & HTP Lowering Line) to individuals because it is convenient and a time saver for troopers to rig their rucks – and perhaps get their rucksacks pre-inspected by a unit Jumpmaster – before they get to the departure airfield to draw their parachutes, weapons cases, kit bags, etc. to finish the rigging process.

 

However, all of that represents an entirely ADMINISTRATIVE requirement we levy on ourselves that has nothing to do with jumping into combat. And after all, a successful combat jump is ultimately the only jump that really matters – tactically, operationally, and strategically – to the individual paratrooper, the Airborne unit, the Army, and finally the Nation. We do not need to teach our troopers bad habits or add an unneeded design feature to our load carrying gear to support a bad habit. Airborne leaders should constantly be making the clear distinction between what we do routinely on some CONUS dropzone in training vice what needs to happen on a hot DZ in some hostile place.

 

The air items stow pocket is certainly not necessary for the rigging process. In fact, the pocket actually slows down the procedure rather than making it smoother. It would be much cleaner if the bottom of the Molle 4000 just had four web bars sewn on that would index the HSPR’s release mechanism in both directions on the ruck. See my mockup using the blue painters tape (above). Then, the entire design of the bottom of the rucksack could be significantly simplified. The bottom of the rucksack itself would be just that – the bottom. The now redundant sleeping bag compartment zipper could be eliminated entirely. The 2/3s zipper would be retained and would give better access to the interior anyway. The ruck could be rigged even faster and there would no longer be a need to secure the flap of the open stow pocket anymore either. That would be markedly better.

 

Bottom line: the new HSPR-M is a home run for Natick and whoever designed it. The Molle 4000 Rucksack is a solid base hit but has some shortcomings that really need to be addressed. I think that perhaps some decision maker(s) got a little too fixated on securing air items rather than concentrating on optimizing the ruck itself for combat. Even in an Airborne unit, the Molle 4000 will just be a rucksack on a soldier’s back 95% of the time. It could be a much better ruck with some relatively modest adjustments. As is, I think soldiers will generally like it. If those things I have identified are fixed, I think they might even love it. Granted, no one asked me for my opinions, but there they are. De Oppresso Liber!

LTC Terry Baldwin, US Army (Ret) served on active duty from 1975-2011 in various Infantry and Special Forces assignments. SSD is blessed to have him as both reader and contributor.

17 Responses to “The Baldwin Files – The Issue MOLLE 4000 Airborne Rucksack”

  1. Bill says:

    Funny. My unit did the intial testing of MOLLE (with belt mounted socket) in the late 90’s and it was universally hated. We were told that our company (USMC) and a company from the 82nd were evaluating the gear. The frames we had wouldn’t survive a fall from an amtrack and we didn’t see how it would survive a drop zone. We heard the 82nd quickly ditched their molle and went back to ALICE. We reverted back to ALICE when testing concluded. Our evaluations fell on deaf ears and the Corps rushed through MOLLE only to scrap the packs for the ILBE a couple years later. Now the 82nd has their very own molle bag. It looks much improved from the stuff I saw 20 years ago.

    • Mehmaster says:

      I used the molle 4k in white devils .The bottom of the frame rib would slip out of the frabic slot on the pack body while rucking with a full load. A far better option is using the mystery ranch bags with a froma harness.

      • redbeard says:

        For Freefall applications, the Mystery Ranch Jump packs with the FROMA PASS straps or SOF Harness are the way to go.

  2. FormerSOWT says:

    I procured a MOLLE 4000 off of eBay for my own use, and generally like it. I haven’t actually rucked with it a lot though. I also contacted Natick concerning a Technical Manual (TM). A guy got back to me with about four others CC’d on the email. He seems genuinely irritated by my questions, and wanted to know how and why I had one. He stated a TM had not been made at that time. Consequently, I didn’t mention I got it on eBay. The one LTC (Ret.) Baldwin has is more updated than the Test model I have, and I would love to get my hands on one. If anyone knows where I can acquire one, I’d be obliged. I’ve got another deployment on the horizon I’d like to take it on. WM Sends.

    • jbgleason says:

      off of eBay

      contacted Natick

      He seems genuinely irritated by my questions, and wanted to know how and why I had one.

      LoL. Was CID one of the people he CC’ed?

      • FormerSOWT says:

        It is a bit funny. But do you know how many of those rucks have been on eBay? I’ll bet a hundred at least. In fact, they’re still on there. Many of those look like they’re from legit store front Army-Navy Surplus stores. I don’t think LTC (Ret.) Baldwin signed for his either. If the Army was that concerned, they shut those sales down, like they’ve done with other items. The TM would’ve come in handy though, as I was thinking about having something custom made.

        • Eddie says:

          I got one for quite a deal in excellent shape. I can confirm they’re very easy to get on eBay. There’s a few up now. There’s some variation through.

    • Pete says:

      Literally any surplus store out the Yadkin, Reilly, or Butner gates at Ft Bragg. Or eBay. Or probably any disgruntled E4-8 in the 82nd. They are not well liked. Really the only things they have going for them are :

      (1) Like the Colonel said, the HARNESS. But as he indicates, it is best used in the quick rig configuration so it is not integrated into the pack and you wouldn’t then have to carry around 3-4 lbs of “why the f*** are you carrying that?” off the DZ. I’d have to check with USAAAS, but there WAS an approved, but little known method for that as well as using the new harness with the regular Molle and using a regular HSPL with the Test Molle 4K. These were associated with the previous test version (which had many more issues – I ran into a team of Natick guys whose commentary on the test ones was, “turns out you 82nd guys just wanted a new ALICE pack.” He was right.

      which leads me to

      (2) ALICE frame compatibility. Plastic DEI 1606, 1603, and 1609 frames are a reasonably nice way to use an (overweight for the task) military ruck as a backpacker’s pack with a (uncomfortable, but durable and weight transferring) waist pad. But they also snap like twigs and creak like a Scooby Doo haunted house and don’t tape up well when broken. Their cardinal sin though is not that they don’t hold up well to landing at 16 to OMFG! Feet Per Second with a laden jumper or when tossed off the back of an LMTV, or even just shoulder dropped by a bone tired trooper. No, those are sins for sure, but the cardinal sin is that you can’t sit on them in the upright position. That means that sitting on your ruck while shoehorned nut-to-butt in the back of a truck or bird or during any one of the known to all since time immemorial “wait” phases of the trooper’s hurry up and wait cycle, stands a good chance of breaking it. And sitting on it upside down while it hangs off your parachute harness as you racetrack a drop zone for the 6th time waiting for wind tolerance stands a VERY good chance of breaking it. Aluminum frames don’t have this problem. Period. Thus, for a human whose job description includes the task of “jump out of plane with heavy things, then carry them long distances under non-trivial threat of being shot at,” they are better. Period.
      But now they are compatible with USGI and all aftermarket ALICE frames although you will give most 82nd JM’s a conniption if you try to rig one with a (tan) TT MALICE frame or Mystery Ranch NICE Frames(which is super comfortable with the waist belt, but also no good for sitting on). Tthe black TAG AGAF frames sold at LCI-SSSC seem to slip through the cracks though 😉 – There are MANY other aftermarket options open to these rucks (Check out USMC and Aussie options) to make them better suit an individual soldier and his task.

      This new Molle 4K is better than the test versions, but here at Ft Bragg, modified and aftermarket ALICE packs are still considered an upgrade.

      • Terry Baldwin says:

        Pete,

        Have the issue Molle 4000s even been distributed to the entire Division at this point?

        Anyone,

        Same question for the other Airborne units (Alaska, Italy, etc.)? Thanks.

        TLB

        • Pete says:

          Sir,
          3rd BDE received full issue of the new “Official,” non-TEST marked ones via RFI in Nov 2018 in lead up to AFG dep. Issue to 2nd and 1st was to follow. Not sure current status, but I’m sure 1st received full issue before rotating on to GRF. I can ask the USAAAS guys tomorrow.

          Initial distro of the test items was 2015 if I remember, right. I think it was to 2nd BDE, but might have been 1st. Division wide distro of the 2nd gen test ones (2 types – same ruck, two fabric thicknesses – 500D and 1000D I think) went to Company level for sub-handreceipting some time in early 2017 if I remember correctly, then there was a fiasco of trying to collect them back up over the Summer of 2018.

          • Terry Baldwin says:

            Pete,

            Good to know. I am surprised that the Molle 4000 test rucks got that wide a distribution. Way back when (1980s), a single battalion at a time would get experimental items. Even then, basis of issue was usually just enough for the rifle companies to try out – not the entire battalion.

            More is probably better in terms of getting valid test results. Obviously, as you point out, testing still levees a significant additional administrative workload on the units. If USAAAS can add anything, I would appreciate you sharing that as well. Thanks!

            TLB

            • Pete says:

              Well, “division wide” distro isn’t actually accurate, more like “non-BN specific mish-mash accross all three BDE’s.” Also, I’m sure they collected surveys or something from someone, but I never saw or heard about them, so I have no idea where they got their data from.

              As far as issue of the current “official” one, 3rd had full issue thru RFI in NOV 2018, the issue to the other two BDE’s is incomplete. 1st has had partial, 2nd I don’t know.

              As far as rigging, there is an updated approved method for using the old HSPR on the new MOLLE 4K’s. The method of using the new MOLLE 4K HSPR on other rucks is tested and proven, but not yet approved.

              Hope that helps,
              -Pete

  3. Luke says:

    I always hear about the advantages of external frames on these packs (better airflow, armor compatibility) but the designers seem compelled to cover as much of the frame as possible to eliminate these advantages completely. Only slightly more coverage then an old alice strap is needed (the crossbars have never been an issue in my testing, only the very top), and if more is desired it should be a separate and removable pad. I shaved 8oz off of my FILBE by removing the straps from the ridiculous plate/pad arrangement and mounting the straps directly to the frame, it also fits plates better and has more airflow.

  4. Will says:

    Since eBay was brought up, I don’t think the government cares about anything but serialized gear being sold on eBay. Even then I see way too many NVG’s that look like they are straight from the armory. The government auctions off so much brand new gear, it would make your head spin. In fact most Federal agencies, and local PD’s can request that gear for free. I’ve seen warehouses full of brand new boots, gore-Tex, helmets, medical and computer equipment, all being given away, or sold for pennies on the dollar. Go to any DRMO and see for yourself.

    On a personal note, it’s always frustrating to see all this waste knowing tax money paid for that gear, and many troops are going without gear while the government intentionally shoves it out the backdoor.

  5. Papa6 says:

    I think the Natick guy said it best; “ turns out you 82nd guys just wanted a new ALICE pack.” I’d say most soldiers just want an improved ALICE pack.