The SureFire, LLC Bore Rods manufactured by Geissele Automatics, LLC, are intended for concentricity check prior to firing suppressed on a new platform. That can be a pretty expensive issue if everything isn’t lined up properly. This video explains how to use them and why you should.
Offered in 5.56, 6.5, 6.8, 7.62 and .338 versions.
www.surefire.com/sf-bore-alignment-rod
Tags: Geissele Automatics, Surefire
OK. So I know we don’t talk about price here on SSD but damn…
These need to be precision cut and retain that precision for years to come, I think 80$ is reasonable.
Depends on how it is made. If all they are doing is buying rod stock, cutting 12″ sections and making sure it is straight it was way way over priced as a 6′ section of rod stock is often less than $20.
But if they are doing something special I can see them charging $80. From the photos it is hard to tell.
Hello, there seems to be some confusion about our rods, here is some info that we posted on our FB about these rods, how precise they are and why that makes them the price that they are.
“”…our Rod is held to +\- .0001″ not just on the diameter, but also over the length of the rod. It is incredibly straight and difficult to make (It’s straight to +/- .0001″ over the length of the Rod!). Which is why it’s so expensive. A lathe would not be able to keep it that straight over the entire length of the 15″ Rod. Our Rod is Gage quality, not a run of the mill bar stock cut down.”
I hope this helps in knowing what exactly these rods are!
Sure, there are people who think that cold-rolled round bar stock could replace that (and it’s stupid), but there are a bit better-educated people who know what the precision ground drill rod is, and their concern isn’t unreasonable.
So, this should be addressed somehow, like: “our rods are harder than conventional hardened precision ground stock (if it’s true) and it makes them less prone to deflection (which usually turns rod straightness tolerance into nonsense if it’s thin and long enough)”. Or something else like that.
It’s been my experience that folks who actually own NFA items don’t cut corners.
It’s a shame you can’t buy precision cut rods from McMaster-Carr for an Abe Lincoln…. or can you???
You definitely can, and McMaster isn’t known for being the cheapest vendor.
Ground stainless shafts like this are about $1/inch in length for 7/32″ diameter.
Precision ground metrological drill rod made by Starrett costs less than $4 per 3″ in a general case, which converts into less than $30 with shipping.
I talked to a dude yesterday at a match who actually had a baffle strike, but admitted that he installed his stuff incorrectly. I have been shooting my silencerco Omega on multiple rifles for a while now and have never used anything like this, with no problems.
Personally I think it’s just another one of those items marketed to guys who are worried sick about every little detail while waiting on their suppressor to come in. Like the recent posting about a 5 pack suppressor pouch and guys worrying about that it didn’t have a pouch for the tax stamp papers. They probably would have bought it if it had a place to hold their paperwork? Again, been shooting mine for a long time, never been questioned by any ATF agents at the shooting range.
SamHill I thought it was an overlooked feature myself on the cinco pouch but wasn’t a deal breaker, I think some others offered the same suggestion as well since the 2 go hand in hand I thought? but hell, what I do I know. If this isn’t for you, than don’t buy it, if you think all your awesome “quality” shit meets all the standards by just looking at it, then shoot away. but not every barrel chopped or bought from the factory is perfectly done, its insurance your ass wants to overlook! but don’t criticize others because they want to know their stuff has been machined/installed correctly, you sound ignorant as hell acting like this is a solution in search of a problem. I suppose I should trust you that all barrels made for an ak are all good to go because you say so! Keep your ignorance bs to yourself cause you don’t have a clue as to what the hell your talking about.
Suppressors and paperwork go hand in hand? Not for me, at least. Loaded magazines and suppressors go hand in hand. I’ll take a pouch that holds that. Currently I don’t have any reason to assume that any of my rifle or suppressor combinations would be any more poorly machined than these rods could be.
You sound pretty upset, remember we are both just dudes on the internet. I didn’t make any claims about AK barrels, or me having better “quality” shit than yours, so relax. If you chopped up and threaded some of your barrels and this rod (hopefully machined correctly, to reverse your argument) will make you feel better then purchase a few. If you also want pouches to hold your worry notes buy some as well. Have a great day Stephen.
Any information on the material?
Hardened stainless.
It’s the best insurance you can buy for your $$$$ suppressors.
try this check when everything is hot – your alignment might not be as good as you think it is.
Stuff moves – if insurance is the goal here then make sure alignment is good when thinks are hot.
Your first clue will be the lack of baffle strikes…LOL
Since a Surefire / Geissele collaboration then surely they will be way more “tactical” than these and of course worth $80 each :/
http://www.cncwarrior.com/category-s/2086.htm
Hello everybody, Geissele Automatics here, since the release of Surefire’s video, there has been some confusion about what these rods are, what they are made of and whey they carry the MSRP that they do.
“…our Rod is held to +\- .0001″ not just on the diameter, but also over the length of the rod. It is incredibly straight and difficult to make (It’s straight to +/- .0001″ over the length of the Rod!). Which is why it’s so expensive. A lathe would not be able to keep it that straight over the entire length of the 15″ Rod. Our Rod is Gage quality, not a run of the mill bar stock cut down.”
Hope this helps!
It I use one of these rods and get a baffle strike will Surefire still charge me $600 to fix?