Over the weekend, this image popped up. According to the label, these are Odyssey Cargo Pants Submersible from Prometheus Design Werx.
Tags: Prometheus Design Werx
Over the weekend, this image popped up. According to the label, these are Odyssey Cargo Pants Submersible from Prometheus Design Werx.
Tags: Prometheus Design Werx
Visually from the photo IMO: Meh.
Re: “Submersible”, wonder if their the same as TAD’s Force 10 AC’s which are 100% nylon of which I own.
if you look at the people behind this its the same folks behind TAD
Even the design is similar
Will be interested in the price point. will this be more or less expensive than TAD
No, it’s not the same people.
If I’m not mistaken, it’s one of the founders of TAD who separated from the company in 2013.
Not one of the founders, Patrick is the founder of TAD?
Ooops, typo, please excuse the question mark
One trick pony?
Prometheus?
“Taken from him”
He was removed because of mis-management and misappropriation of funds. He took TAD from himself.
I like PDW, but, lets not be dishonest.
Says you.
Dishonest partners, coworkers, deep pockets and connections with in the legal system took it from him.
If your going to be a story teller, please…tell the whole story.
Definately not the same “people”, though the designer is who made TAD be a brand. More here: https://ssdaily.tempurl.host/2013/08/29/a-statement-regarding-patrick-york-ma/
Material is different from TAD Force 10 AC’s. They’re more breathable, and not as hot
Wow how original, so change the d-rings to triangles and add a Velcro patch on the other cargo pocket. even the secret back pocket is the same as TAD
My thoughts exactly. Pattern looks nearly the same, features are nearly identical, even the name.
I’m saddened to see this, along with some of the earlier releases it just seems like rehashed older ideas and designs just with a new logo, not what I personally had hoped for.
I am sure the price will be about the same, which is too much for either. Having owned both pants and a jacket from TAD, I would buy another jacket from them but never another pair of pants or shorts. Price is not worth what you get.
I feel the opposite. The jackets are retardest prices, especially for being made overseas. The U.S. made pants are shorts are the only worthwhile purchase.
Former cut and stitch dude here – Arc’s asian manufacturing system is considerably different then your traditional asian catalog manufactures that other tac/civ companies utilize. Arc’s mfg team is highly sophisticated – probably one of the best out there – and utilize some of the most advanced manufacturing applications/process on the market. American mfg is trying to catch up but the fact is not all of the materials and components (zippers etc.) are available. While Arc does have a nice margin, the people building the gear do an outstanding job.
As far as your Stealth (softshell) jacket is concerned — I wonder why they (TAD GEAR are charging almost $500 for a consumer direct product? NAFTA build/sourcing issues aside, it seems a bit steep if you ask me.
Ref: Beyond Rig (100% USA SOURCE/MFG) – $300 // ARC BRAVO/DRAC $250-350 (100% ASIA).
I’m not sure where you get your info or your pricing but you can get some very nice Arc’teryx gear at a very reasonable price. As for Warren Buffett, he has nothing to do with Finnish Amer Sport OYJ who owns Arc’teryx.
I just got a Arc shell for less then 300 bucks… there are plenty there, and even more so if you work the sales and outlets. You utterly get what you pay for with the Dirty Bird.
You can pick up an alpha goretex shell for like 150.
It’s end of season. Lots of sales. Literally five minutes with Google will turn up plenty of examples.
It appears they kept the MC Hammer parachute pant styling as well. Pass.
Dude in the picture must be a small child. Have a pair in-hand. The fit is perfect. Not baggy as pictured.
Thank god, I was afraid we were running out of pants to choose from.
Re: the pants, the Chinese will have ’em on Aliexpress soon enough.
Re: Prometheus Design Werx…. hope you guys got yer green glass Octopus before they’re all gone. ;)>
Pretty disappoint. I was expecting something new and exciting.
Now the wait is on to see what his jackets look like.