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Forces Focus – 3rd SFG(A) SOCP

3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) Combatives Program from Fort Bragg, N.C. on Vimeo.

This video gives you an inside look at 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne)’s Special Operations Combative Program.

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4 Responses to “Forces Focus – 3rd SFG(A) SOCP”

  1. Ammoman says:

    Looks better than that worthless modern army combatives based on MMA

    People forget that MMA is a one-on-one sport with rules and no weapons. The battlefield is never one-on-one, everyone has at least a knife, and there are no rules. Get tangled up on the ground and apply an arm bar, you sacrifice mobility and the other guy’s battle buddy will kick you in the head or run you through with a bayonet.

    If your training doesn’t include weapons from day one, it’s a sport not a warrior’s art.

    • straps says:

      If your unit’s Combatives looks or feels like MMA or pre-K-Karate, that’s on the unit’s Combatives cadre, or possibly a command team not dedicated to taking those FUNDAMENTALS into more fluid, stressful and realistic situations.

      The FUNDAMENTALS taught in Level I and II take you all the way to Level III, where appropriately certified instructors can train strikes, weapons retention and melees that can be conducted with reasonable safety AND relevance to the threat. Where units go wrong is not training beyond or even sustaining the drills–the FUNDAMENTALS. No better than units that don’t shoot enough, or train creatively.

      In this day and age, Soldiers with Level III Combatives cert will get sucked up to the Battalion HQ, where they are doing b!tch work for the CSM, the 3 shop or *GULP* the Chaplain (I’ve seen LOTS of Chaplain’s Assistants wearing the CLIII hat–which is fine unless Combatives is seen as a distractor WHILE HE’S IN THAT POSITION. If they’re not working with the Company Level II guys AND given the top cover, the mandate or the mentorship to liaison between the post Fight House (or Brigade, where the Level IV guy with the obligation to select, purchase AND MAINTAIN equipment gets to hide because the battalions aren’t putting load on him), the company-level programs will never get off the ground. Which is sad, because if you can teach a kid to close the distance like a disciplined warrior, the weapons proficiency, the PT and the personal/collective conduct all fall into place.

      Coolest CSM ever asked his BC once, “Would you rather have couple LODs or a stack of A15s?”

      No combat-effective SDM, Sniper or Cool Guy ever got to that level without mastering his trigger and sight alignment FUNDAMENTALS.

      /Rant OFF/

      • mr bean says:

        Exactly. SOCP has the same fundamentals as MACP, you learn a few more moves and that’s about it. Level II got into what they were doing in the video, practical applications, they do give out good scenarios, and much like anything it all depends on your instructor/COC and anyone that’s done a day in the military knows how that can go. From a LE perspective, I wish this was our class instead of PPCT.

        • Bman says:

          PPCT is worthless. I thought people quit training that as sole program a long time ago. Florida covers PPCT for the 3 common points that you are given when someone is passively to actively resisiting in a dead weight or clinching onto a post/ wont get out of the back seat situation. The vast majority of the time training is focused on strikes, takedowns, weapons and other “survival” techniques and Bjj style grappling.