According to an industry source, for the past few years Polish Special Forces have been utilizing a MultiCam knockoff pattern called “Suez”. “Suez” is very similar to MultiCam, and is missing only one color when compared to the original pattern. It consists of dark brown, olive green, light olive, beige, and tan on a sandy background. It is printed by the Polish fabric printing company Andropol, and has since also been introduced to other services such as the BOR – Polish Secret Service. Recently, at the MSPO trade show, Andropol introduced a green coloration as a proposal of a new pattern for the Polish Border Guard.
In the image above, you can see “Suez” on the left, printed on 50/50 PolyCotton fabric, with MultiCam on the right printed on 50/50 NyCo. The below image shows a swath of “Suez” printed on 50/50 PolyCotton.
As you can see, “Suez” is very similar to commercial MultiCam in composition.
Now those listings for “Helikon Camogrom” on the Directaction.com assault packs makes sense!
Mick.
Yep, Camogrom is basically commericially produced Suez.
I just heard from an industry source the other day that the Polish Special Forces Division has just recently officially adopted authentic MultiCam. Can anyone confirm that?
Suez is only uniform pattern, nylon gear is making by real crye MC. Some SF Units like Grom or Formoza use uniforms in Multicam.
To be honest after seeing the suez in person next to my OCP I have to say I like suez a lot more. It’s not as dark as OCP. Additionally the fire resistant in my OCP makes the material color more dull.
Either one is still going to be better than Scorpion.
Which is still better than the (old) OCP.
Agreed.
As I just said in response to another post in this thread, Polish Special Forces uniforms have been issued in MultiCam since at least 2012. MIWO Military Lubliniec is the current supplier for COS-DKWS and only produces in MultiCam.
I’m guessing what your source heard is related to the specifications for the recent tenders for the next COS-DKWS uniforms, which state that all uniforms are to be produced using MultiCam fabric.
And yes, as has already been stated, only the uniforms were ever produced in Suez.
Polish Army SF is using stolen MC-like pattern for at least 5 years.
Fabric is manufactured by Andropol.
99.99% of all Cry gear seen on images are local copies – RedRiver for example.
Authentic Crye vests are maybe 10-20 units.
There are some uniforms made by local manufacturers from authentic imported MC – specops, miwo, nfm, Currahee etc.
But relatively small numbers.
Everything else is stolen and has been stolen for at least half a decade or more.
Incorrect. Load of bullshit actually.
Polish Special Forces uniforms have been issued in MultiCam since at least 2012, as MIWO Military Lubliniec is the current supplier for COS-DKWS and only produces in MultiCam.
Moreover, specifications for the ongoing tenders for the next COS-DKWS uniforms state that all uniforms are to be produced in MultiCam fabric.
Also, let’s not get kid anyone here by claiming that Polish Special Forces only wear knockoffs of Crye Precision products.
The only Crye Precision knockoffs currently being produced are the RED RIVER and Currahee JPC imitations and the Currahee G3 uniforms imitations. And while the RED RIVER JPC is issued to every Polish Special Forces units, the Currahee JPC and uniforms are not.
Some GROM members do wear G3 uniforms, however they are actual Crye-produced ones. Same goes for FORMOZA. The only unit where you can actually see a good amount of Currahee G3’s is JWK; and that is because they’ve recently ordered Currahee G3 uniforms in A-TACS FG for their C Combat Team, something Crye Precision doesn’t produce.
No Crye Precision plate-carriers are in use by Polish Special Forces. None.
GROM guys wear the DBT FAPC2 and the Eagle Industries MMAC. FORMOZA guys wear Lubawa vests as well as the recently, tender-acquired, Mayflower APC-F (specifically made for the unit). JWK guys wear the MIWO Lubliniec TF.50 (A Combat Team), the MIWO Lubliniec 41.01 (B Combat Team), the Currahee QR LD (C Combat Team) as well as RED RIVER JPC’s. AGAT guys wear Lubawa plate-carriers.
Suez as always only been used to produce uniforms, all of the other gear worn by Polish Special Forces were and are produced using genuine MultiCam fabric.
That’s no small numbers, especially considering that all of the companies you mentioned using genuine MultiCam have all at some point or another been suppliers for the DWS (and some still are currently under contracts).
You’re welcome.
I cannot reply to your whole comment but just to let you know – there are JPC’s in use with POLSOF.
Yes, there are: RED RIVER ones (clones). As issued to GROM, FORMOZA and JWK. No Crye JPC’s were ever issued to these units or any other Polish Special Forces units.
I’ve seen that You are close with this MIWO company, and Your info is incorrect. Polish SF unit’s are officially bought “original” JPC and several unit’s from other agency are already using Crye Product – PC, belts and uniform’s (both AC and G3). So first – check the information source You have, this one is not valid 🙂
I’m gonna have to look closer the Polish MP in my class to see…
So… I guess they found a way for their printers to avoid paying the licensing costs? 😀
Hahaha, yeah! This causes me to wonder: has Crye cared enough to drag anyone to court for producing knockoffs?
Not in Poland they haven’t. Though Poland seems to be getting away with anything.
They have their own G3 uniforms versions, their own JPC versions, their own 6094 versions, their own Safariland holsters versions, their own EOTech versions… I could go on all day really.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
agreed…I’m sure Mr. Crye is sitting on cloud 9 thinking, “Man, who hasn’t tried to imitate my Multicam?
Does anyone else think they missed a golden opportunity when they failed to call it “Gromauflage” or “Camogrom”?
SSD, I look forward to your article regarding this http://kitup.military.com/2014/10/rangers-retire-ocp-wear-multicam.html
Rangers are ahead of the Army in implementing OCP.
Yes, you did that to piss me off didn’t you?
Why would I want to piss a stranger from the internet off for? Usually, you give better insight than the ArmyTimes and Kitup articles that is why I asked.
I’ve written two stories about it. One of them a full three days before the event.