Regardless of whether you produce or consume content concerning firearms on YouTube, these new rules are worth reviewing.
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Alright. What’s our alternative? Where do we need to start posting our videos when we all dump youtube?
Full30
That’ll fix everything! Great job, YouTube!
Gun violence problem solved!
As thrilling as they are to watch… does that mean all content involving reloading is now forbidden?
If it’s anything like their current content policy, they’ll play fast and loose and just ban whatever they want. My understanding is, the people in charge of actually looking at this stuff are SJW shitheads. Correct me if I’m wrong. Is SSD aware of any alternative online video sources.
Full30 is the firearms-friendly alternative.
Yeah, but isn’t it invite only to post videos? Or am I thinking of another site?
That is Full30, not only is it invite only but I’ve heard (since it isn’t posted) that all content must be family friendly which means no swearing.
(expletive) that then!
The 80% guys will be saddened by this.
I am a 07 FFL/SOT and regularly look at various manufacturing processes, all completely legal for me to perform, on YouTube. This actually kind of sucks for me as far as seeing what various engineers and inventors are doing out there. Yet another example of a group of people who champion a free and open society as long as it regards issues that they champion.
Even without an SOT there are tons of builds that are legal, both with and without a Form 1.
Capitalism is a bitch sometimes (to these types). We’ll just take our videos and business elsewhere…there’s always someone else who’s happy to host the unwanted if theirs $ to gain (and their most certainly is).
The whole idea that banning our videos (and giving up that piece of advertising $) will make them “feel good” will be their undoing.
It’s not hosting that is their selling point, it’s access. They have the viewers.
…For now…
But if I cannot watch my “gun vids” on YouTube, I won’t be there for the music, or anything else.
And here is how the rest of the country is going to react to the NRA’s and gun community’s dig your “heels in the ground, don’t give an inch, and don’t be part of the discussion” rable rousing.
If ya don’t want to be part of the discussion, don’t be surprised when you don’t get invited to the table.
The NRA is currently doing more to hurt the future of gun freedoms in this country than they are doing to help, and many gun owners continue to pay them for the privlage.
Are you suggesting that “Giving an inch” to gun-grabbers is what we should be doing?
So what do you feel we should give up?
Hey Bill, social media sites are fads. Remember MySpace? Or LiveJournal? Nor do most. They did not survive the test of time.
The US Constitution/BoR is the supreme law of this land. They were ratified in 1791 and have stayed consistent to this day.
They can have youtube and facebook for the short time it lasts. I’ll keep my guns and my freedom of speech.
The sites themselves change, but both sites you mention are evolutions of the idea of social media. So IMO though the particular sites used may change or vary, the idea of social media is there to stay.
The assumption, of course, being that Youtube administrators were open to discussion. Youtube has a bias, one even they recognize to an extent. Youtube held events last year in order to attract political content creators from the right, only to demonetize, block from search, and remove their videos, in keeping with their previous practice and contrary to the very assurances they offered.
Youtube is not interested in a dialogue or negotiation. This reaction was inevitable, and in keeping with their corporate culture.
It also means, from my interpretation, that ANY video that shows the insertion of a standard capacity magazine into an AR or double stack pistol is subject to removal.
Exactly.
WTF Bill??? Can you elaborate more, Please?
After a horrific event like the recent school shootings, or Las Vegas massacre the NRA, Firearm manufactures, and local clubs should IMO, be asking the same fundamental statement everyone else is: lest find a way to keep our communities safer. Instead we got “the commies are coming to take our guns.”
For a group who generally doesn’t like to give in, we sure gave up the media quickly. There was minimal effort ever made to engage those whom we disagree with on the issue.
If we really don’t think guns are the issue, why have we been so unwilling to spend any money on helping find solutions to the mental health, and societal issues that are causing Americans to kill each other at higher rates than other developed countries?
Instead we just write off YouTube, and other media outlets as SJWs and don’t bother to engage them in any discussion other than ‘guns are sacred, I’m keeping my guns.’ This doesn’t further the dialog at all, and just further alienates law abiding gun owners from other societal groups, including many of the media outlets folks use. The ‘gun grabbers’ are equally to blaim, they have made little to no effort to engage gun owners in anything resembling a thoughtful discussion. We should not however, use this as an excuse to bow down to their low.
Uh, how about the authorities in FL including the FBI DID NOT DO THEIR EFFING JOBS? You think about that?? What did that guy in Vegas do that was illegal BEFORE he shot up the music festival? NOTHING! How do you NOT SEE what your implying is either making the Govt. more powerful and taking away Rights of law abiding citizens while at the same time also implying the NRA is some how complicit in evil acts. I think you need to go back and do your homework and read the Constitution plus add a little common sense to your brainwashed “let the Govt. help”.
F*%&ing pathetic!
The 18th amendment to the US Constitution makes it illegal to manufacture or sell alcohol. What would you have to say about that?
…..and your point? (vague as Phuck!)
My point is that many people use the 2nd amendment as a god-given, immutable law and right to mankind. It is not. It’s a totally moot argument.
The 21st amendment
So you’re saying the amendments to the Constitution are not set in stone and are meant to be changed as society and technology change? Huh, interesting point you make.
I guess it’s crickets I hear, nothing from “Bill” or “Andrew”???
Typical, drive by trolls!
Sorry, not going to work, just like Nick Pacific said. They don’t care – move onto something and someone else who does care.
Bill, it’s hardly fair let alone logical for one to expect gun owners to solve mental health and societal issues that contribute to these uncommon incidents. It would be like expecting the car industry to fight alcoholism.
The reasons mental health isn’t addressed as well as it can are numerous. It’s a difficult problem. How mal-adjusted does one have top be to be restricted from firearms? Sure the fringe is relatively easy to identify but its the borderline ones that get real hard and then to create a system that can’t be abused is near impossible.
One must also realize there is a solid reason that solutions aren’t found. E.G. securing our most precious resource with armed security is common sense. We do it for far less important resources. If solutions were enacted the anti 2A wouldn’t have children’s bodies to put their podium on and further their goals which they have admitted is complete confiscation.
I’m for giving YouTube and social media all the rope they need. They are building a strong case for government regulation.
Thank you Will! Exactly, can you even give a reason, Bill why the FIRST civil rights organization and law abiding firearms owners responsibility to solve societal problems that go far beyond just the “tool” used in killed let alone true mental-health problems. Look around you! This problem has been building for over the last 70+ years. As far as I’m concerned, liberalism in its’ modern form is the true mental-health problem and folks like us might end up being the cure, god-forbid that happens.
Bill-
Always good to see that there are still folks that don’t use TV or the internet to keep up with current events. The NRA and many other firearms-oriented businesses have given up plenty of ground lately. This is causing a pretty big schism within the NRA.
There is no “gun community,” in the sense you seem to be writing about, i.e. a monolithic body with a single focus or mindset…any more than there is a “moron community” with the same characteristics.
Have a nice day!
JMG
I am reminded of when some firearms instructor tried to start a youtube competition and a bunch of guys who don’t like his style whined and said they wouldn’t participate. OK…so we keep bending to the will of the SJW left.
Freedom loving Americans should have had multiple youtube competitions by now. If/when youtube boots the rest of us off our next generations can just learn gun training from rap videos or ANTIFA channels, right along side their leftist brainwashing.
“Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” or
“as you sow, so shall you reap”
In this case, freedom loving Americans did not build sufficient competition to youtube and/or google thus we are subject to their social justice fantasies. It perfectly OK for XXXTENASION to lynch a white kid in his rap video, but it’s not OK for old man hickock45 or military arms channel to demo some fun gun stuff.
There is a battle right now between the radical left and America, we need to be sure which team we are supporting and play accordingly.
I don’t know if it would be “bending” to SJW (Meaning- we as gun owners aren’t bending, youtube may be)…but since youtube is a private website and it’s not a right to use, I think it’s within their reason to do so…Yes, youtube is biased, Yes, youtube shows all sorts of other things that are inappropriate. You can’t expect a company to be moral or conservative if you use their site. The only way to “fight” youtube is to go elsewhere…
You make good points and I think to play accordingly is to go elsewhere when i can.
I don’t know if it would be “bending” to SJW (Meaning- we as gun owners aren’t bending, youtube may be)…but since youtube is a private website and it’s not a right to use, I think it’s within their reason to do so…Yes, youtube is biased, Yes, youtube shows all sorts of other things that are inappropriate. You can’t expect a company to be moral or conservative if you use their site. The only way to “fight” youtube is to go elsewhere…
You make good points and I think to play accordingly is to go elsewhere when i can.
So pretty much everything except for videos of people just shooting randomly.
brothers, does this mean James Yeagers new channel is already getting shut down? My TL and i watch him instruct on you tube all the time and its a shame if we can’t do training like what he teaches anymore. We started using his cross cover pie off and man we crash the doors hard now! We blow threw the fatel funnel and my ATL has to try to keep up now to!
I come to the comments section for these posts!
Can’t wait to see the guntubers blurring out magazines, triggers, etc. like it is some softcore porn video just to get around the regulations.
this guy has been ahead of the curve a lot… for years – Arab Spring (social media) , drones, artificial intelligence etc. and he may be on to something now
http://www.globalguerrillas.typepad.com
I think the solution is obvious…
When is SSD going to start hosting videos? 🙂
THIS!
NO: google.com
YES: http://www.qwant.com or http://www.duckduckgo.com searches not tracked or sold
NO: gmail.com
YES: http://www.protonmail.com – secure and private
NO: google chrome
YES: http://www.firefox.com – info not tracked or sold
duckduckgo also has a browser for iOS and Android. Brave is another option for mobile and desktop platforms. I’ve never heard of protonmail, but I’m going to check them out. I’m looking for a gmail replacement.
also early april youtube will change its name to pussytube – fits!