At DSEI, Steiner Optics showed us the M-830r LRF, a binocular that integrates a Laser Range Finder. It will range targets from 25m to beyond 6,000m.
The laser range finder is a class 1 eyesafe laser, and this 8×30 power bino offers the Steiner Universal Mil Reticle (SUMR) for ranging in case of battery failure. What’s more, the laser is out of band for NVGs so your adversaries won’t see your laser.
www.steiner-optics.com/binoculars/military/m830r-lrf-military-8x30r-lrf
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The “out of band” laser feature is a great idea. More and more I am becoming leery of using IR products because of the relative abundant availability of NVGs and other IR capable devices. For example, if the enemy has just one over watch that has a set of NVGs then the advantage of IR aiming devices and other IR products will standout like a sore thumb and negates, in my opinion, the advantage such devices gives someone.
Does anyone know any other out of band IR devices? The ability to use IR devices without having to worry about probable detection would be nice. Atleast until the proliferation of the “out of band” IR saturating the world anyways.
Have a good un.
The laser is out of band which means you can’t see it with NV. No one will see it with NV. It’s not meant to be seen. It’s for range-finding so you shouldn’t see the laser 😉
I understand that. Did not mean for it to sound like I did not. Thanks.
Maybe a better questions would be is there NVG out there that can see the “out of band” IR?
SWIR Cameras
Laser rangefinders are “out of band” specifically either 905nm (golf laser range finders) to 1550nm (military laser range finders). Out-of-band laser systems exceed the typically wavelength that can be sensed with standard NVGs, however you would need a way to see what your pointing at, hence you need a sensor that can detect the band you are pointing with.
Contact B.E. Meyers & Co. Inc. (www.bemeyers.com) for DOD-specific laser systems in visible, NIR, and out-of-band.
You can definitely see 905nm with standard tubes.
Great product! – Vic
You have to define what bandwidths are within band first, as that defines further what device your characterizing.
All tubes for instance are not consistant with what in their “bands”, nor if their optics allow that strain to even pass through the front stack.
Yes, some tubes see extended band, meaning outside the typical-by no small margin. Not into the high end to 1.55.
What some folks need to realize is that nearly any laser can be seen by a tube or sensor if your looking at the source or near to beam.
Eye safe? Good to 6Km on what type of target? PLRF won’t get you 6Km and it has a very good laser
“You shouldn’t see it” is a centric and time-lapse response. That is an accurate answer-before.
YES, YOU CAN SEE