TYR Tactical is unveiling their new Huron Hot Weather uniform during next week’s DSEI at London’s ExCel Center in booth N4-374.
Look for full details here on SSD.
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TYR Tactical is unveiling their new Huron Hot Weather uniform during next week’s DSEI at London’s ExCel Center in booth N4-374.
Look for full details here on SSD.
Tags: Tyr Tactical
Will it be like the rest of the Huron clothing with a high price point ? (Let’s hope it’s not a 450$ shirt).
Yup, most likely. Unfortunately.
Of course, because it’s not for you, peasant.
They’re always accepting volunteers.
Mentally challenged have been excluded, too.
Or the $600 trousers.
Is there seriously any market for this at all? Why not just wear a combat shirt?
Of course knowing Tyr it will cost 350$.
I love their Brokos and Cobra belts, and their pouches are good, but some of their stuff is just ridiculous. Their entire “Jungle” line just has be scratching my head wondering who the heck designed these products, and who in the world would actually need something like this.
Keep scratching, maybe you’ll hit oil.
Are you simply mocking me, or is there actually a group or someone that would need something like this?
If there is, please enlighten me.
My idea of someone who buys a hot weather blouse in 2015 is a middle aged man with too much money, walking around in the woods by himself with his lensatic compass in his breast pocket, ranger beads on his wrist and a safe queen knife on his hip.
In other words, someone living in the past.
I would say flat out mocking you. TYR does not go out on a whim to produce and deliver a product. Most of their business is for the top tier guys who ask them to produce it
Guys, Tyr (or any other company for that matter) aren’t developing and placing these products at certain price points on a whim and for fun you know. There are genuine reasons and requirements to be met.
Not too long ago people were questioning Crye’s decisions to sell their now famous combat shirts and pants at that price point when BDUs and BDU-type shirts and pants were the norm. Now barely anyone questions that.
Please show me the proof the TYR clothing and gear is better than and 2-3 times the worth of Crye’s.
Yeah, I thought so…
So far Crye hasn’t publicly offered any of the clothing options that TYR has.
So far have you used any of Tyr’s clothing?
So you’re against any improvements no matter how small or at large costs?
So you’re advocating a return to the dark days of one size / type fits all?
So you’re aware of how much effort and work (not to mention money and research) goes into protyping all the way to manufacturing?
So you’re happy paying low prices for substandard equipment manufactured overseas vis the disappearance of entrepreneurial spirit and the middle class?
Yeah, I thought so.
Dude you need a reality check. TYR hasn’t got anything over the likes of Crye, Patagonia etc…and you seem to think they belong to “dark days”.
Research and money TYR spends on over other leading manufacturers?! Substandard equipment? Do you even listen to yourself sometimes?
Again show me/us the advances TYR has made over others and I’ll believe you.
Until then go and hide in the corner somewhere in your NYCO ripstop TYR shirt.
Hey. I realised you never answered the questions posted above.
Funny, I have zero interest in Tyr or their products. What really excites me is innovation. Any kind. Yet hurr durr I must be someone who dropped a couple hundred on Tyr’s products. Yeah I wish I can afford it on my grunt pay.
Also my initial question was comparing Crye’s offerings to the then common and existing BDU and BDU type uniform clothing. I release a lot of folks were complaining about how much Crye Precision were charging for their products compared to what existed then, and surprise surprise it’s now the norrm for such products to be charged at such prices.
Don’t get mad if a company releases a product you have no need for at a price point you can’t afford. More competition from any product is great. If this product is rubbish the market forces will dictate it will fail. No one is forcing you you to purchase and subsidise it.
I may be just a dumb grunt but I’m well aware of what it takes to get a product from drawings / CAD stage to prototyping to actual manufacturing stage. Maybe you should get a reality check and see for yourself what it takes.
Free market economics. So glad it works.
I would so like to engage in a discussion with you, but your logic and knowledge on the subject escapes you and I have no interest in further ping-pongs with you.
So in closing remarks…
Let’s start from the beginning – I asked YOU a question first, not vice versa. You “answered” in flawed logic and unsubstantiated comparison.
BDUs vs Cry you say? Well let me re-fresh your memory a little then- BDU is a basic uniform if not the most basic uniform US forces have ever donned. Even the basic Vietnam era jungle fatigues are more advanced than BDU pants for example (and BDU was to be an evolution to then current cotton ripstop jungle fatigues and NyCo poplin M65 cold weather uniform) and I won’t even mention the ill-fitting BDU shirt.
When Crye came onto the market it did so with a modernized future-soldier field and combat uniforms, mainly focused on special forces, who desperately needed better and more advanced uniform sets at the time. Just look at the early Crye R6 set, adopted by SF and many armed forces around the world. That was a HUGE upgrade to then basic BDU/DCU uniforms. And no – Crye wasn’t alone back then, there were other top tactical/combat uniform manufacturers like Patagonia, Arcteryx etc and many already had contracts with the certain parts of US military.
So to cut he long story short, Crye’s uniforms did cost much more than then omnipresent BDU uniforms simply because their gear was so much better and advancements they introduced warranted higher prices.
That said, you cannot use the same comparison between TYR and Crye these days. If (and I say – if) there are any improvements TYR brings over Cry these days, those will be minimal or incremental, and certainly wouldn’t warrant such a price difference.
You mention TYR’s R&D and its associated cost but ignore to even mention R&D Crye puts into developing their products. Maybe you think Crye does it all on a smell of an oily rag, I dunno.
And lastly, you seem to favor TYR and vocally defend over-the-top pricing applied to their products yet you never owned their garment? I happen to own many Cry Precision and Arcteryx garments and have seen first-hand a TYR combat shirt in NyCo ripstop and know a thing or two about modern combat uniforms, yet their shirt left me and others around me who handled it that day – puzzled. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING on that shirt was “better” or more advanced than on my AC and G3 combat shirts yet the price was more than double.
Yes, it’s true that market forces will dictate success or downfall of any product for that matter, and I’m hoping it will be for their benefit, somehow I just don’t think so.
As for those who get a stiffy even on mention of the next “niche tactical product” of advanced properties and performance – good for you.
Please, good sir, it was hard to have a logcial discourse with you from the beginning when throwing around BS like
Until then go and hide in the corner somewhere in your NYCO ripstop TYR shirt.
Or gems like this
As for those who get a stiffy even on mention of the next “niche tactical product” of advanced properties and performance – good for you.
I’m glad you’re happy paying for products that suit your requirements and budget.
I don’t favour anyone. I do have a few choice of products myself from brands like Crye or TAD or the dead bird but I’m really surprised that you can form such strong opinions and conclusions on a product that has yet to be released. Or one you’ve yet to use.
Bottom line is. If this product isn’t for you. If this product is beyond your requirements. No one is forcing you to purchase it. No one is asking you to subsidise its development. If it’s as shitty as you said it is. It’ll not do well in face of it’s competition
I’ve worked with both companies, both start with designs from scratch and work to improve upon previous designs. Love how you guys judge from a few f’n photos
Oh please, you cannot seriously convince anyone that a flat chested uniform blouse made out of 50/50 NYCO requires such a vast amount of capital to prototype and draft that it could justify a garment as expensive as what tyr is offering. They aren’t building them from scratch, and tyr is by no means a new player in the industry. Obviously we don’t know what the final product will look like, but it looks like something that a PX tailor could whip up from an old BDU blouse without too much effort.
They make a six hundred dollar anorak, a garment that is very little more than a poncho with sleeves and side zippers. It is designed to be worn extremely loose, which means that precise sizing is not necessary. Here’s the kicker: it’s literally not even water repellent. It’s not made from Gore Tex, and it’s still six hundred dollars.
>against any improvements
These aren’t even improvements. An improvement is a combat shirt, this is just rehashing the same ideas with some mesh and some Velcro and designing a product for a market that doesn’t even exist. Didn’t the US Military unanimously agree that combat shirts are a vastly superior hot weather solution to full-chested blouses?
>So you’re advocating a return to the dark days of one size / type fits all?
I don’t see how he’s implying that at all. Keep it simple. If a solution exists that meets multiple needs, why bother with specialized products like this that are inferior? We are seeing a return of the “one size fits all” concept, because it works. Again, it’s a well known fact that blouses are inferior to combat shirts.
>So you’re happy paying low prices for substandard equipment manufactured overseas vis the disappearance of entrepreneurial spirit and the middle class?
No one is talking about Chinese made garbage, we are comparing these to products made in the first world, and more specifically by Americans. Look at Patagonia, Crye, Drifire, Beyond, TAD, and a variety of surplus solutions made by Sekri, Readyone, Propper, etc. All of these companies make new products and come up with new solutions to existing problems, albeit at ridiculous prices in some cases.
I don’t understand why you are defending this “ingenuity” so much. There’s a difference between ingenuity, creating new solutions to existing problems, and creating redundant solutions to problems that have long since been overcome with superior and cheaper solutions.
And yet, not one person posting here has an idea about actually manufacturing a product.
Jesus wept. Everyone is an expert now. Carry on I guess.
SSD was right. I too have yet to meet someone that complains about pricing actually knows anything at all about manufacturing and design.
By all means if you think that you can design and manufacture a product that is not only better than what’s being offered here at a lower price, do it.
Glad that so many experts posting here are sounding off their expert opinion on a product that hasn’t even been releases yet.
>>And yet, not one person posting here has an idea about actually manufacturing a product. <>SSD was right. I too have yet to meet someone that complains about pricing actually knows anything at all about manufacturing and design.<>Glad that so many experts posting here are sounding off their expert opinion on a product that hasn’t even been releases yet. <<
And again, you do realize you belong to that same group of 'experts posting', don't you?
So what exactly was your point anyway, Dev?