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Toni System – AR15 Aiming System

Toni System is an Italian company and this is their two-piece AR15 aiming system intended for competition shooting.

Using sight ribs like on a shotgun, they mount a 1.0mm fiber optic sight to one for long range shooting, while the other incorporates a 1.5mm fiber for short range shooting. They are offset at 45 degrees. Cant the rifle to acquire the sight picture desired.

www.tonisystem.it/it/rifle/ar15

This post was inspired by Frank Woods. I have it on good authority he uses it.

12 Responses to “Toni System – AR15 Aiming System”

  1. Alpha2 says:

    Okay. That looks like a solution looking for a problem.

    • Nick says:

      To be honest, it looks like a problem looking for a problem.

      • Beta2 says:

        They got the tooling for competition shotgun ribs so why not press e to extrude the picatinny rail mount lol. I’d rather a gutter snipe system personally if we was going for ridiculous iron sight systems.

  2. Ed says:

    Are they not allowed to use red-dots in Europe? I defer to Nick and a ditto of his comment. 🙂

  3. SSD says:

    It’s actually untrue, Frank doesn’t use these sights. I just wanted to wind him up.

  4. Caleb says:

    Fixed the link for ya for those who don’t speak italian:

    https://www.tonisystem.it/en/rifle/m4-m16/

  5. mark says:

    Reminds me of Colt’s ACR Rifle candidate, which featured a raised ‘vent rib’ along the top of the handguard to serve as a CQB point shooting sight.

    “The main differences of the Colt ACR and the M16A2 is the distinctive furniture. The handguard included a heat-resistant inner lining, vent holes for lightening and air cooling with a thickened ring around the front end to act as a handstop. This was topped with an elevated sight track rib with a white stripe to improve fast target acquisition.”

    • AbnMedOps says:

      I’d forgotten about that. Wonder if there is any data on how well it worked, in comparison to other sighting methods? On the face of it, it doesn’t sound entirely unreasonable.

      • mark says:

        Sadly, I’ve never seen any of the ACR trials data published. Which is a shame as between the next gen weapons and the custom target range they built to test them, I’m sure its full of fascinating data.

        For the the Colt ACR, I don’t see how the vent rib would have been visible at all; all the photos show a 3.5x ELCAN mounted directly in front of the vent rib.

        But the idea of a vent rib is sound; would probably be superior to conventional irons on a controllable FA weapon inside 50 yards against moving targets. In hindsight, kinda surprised we never saw a Vent Rib Thompson or other SMG.

  6. Linz says:

    Back to the Colt ACR.

  7. Zach says:

    I suspect these sight systems were designed specifically for the Standard Divisions of IPSC Rifle Competition where the use of electronic or optical sights is prohibited. In those competitions I think using two different iron sights with separate zeroes is slowly becoming more common, both for shooting from compromised positions and to transition from close range to long range targets.